<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Jay Pipes <<a href="mailto:jaypipes@gmail.com">jaypipes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">On 08/09/2012 11:05 PM, George Reese wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 9, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Doug Davis <<a href="mailto:dug@us.ibm.com">dug@us.ibm.com</a><br><<a href="mailto:dug@us.ibm.com">mailto:dug@us.ibm.com</a>>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Situations like this are always interesting to watch. :-)<br><br>On the one hand its open-source, so if you care about something then<br>put up the resources to make it happen.<br></blockquote><br>This attitude always bothers me. This isn't some Open Source labor of<br>love. It's a commercial collaboration in which many of the contributors<br>have a significant economic interest. <br><br>To be more blunt: if I'm writing code, it's for enStratus.<br></blockquote><br>Patches always welcome, George. If you can't see that code you may write<br>for enStratus might be globally useful, then you're missing the point of<br>this open development community.<br><br>And although there are many in this OpenStack community that work for a<br>commercial entity and contribute code as such, there are many who don't<br>-- and dismissing their contributions as "some Open Source labor of<br>love" is degrading and shows the type of opinion you have towards<br>anything that doesn't fit nicely in your<br>everything-is-a-commercial-agenda worldview.<br><br>If you care about something, then help to fix it.<br><br><br></blockquote></div><div apple-content-edited="true">
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Either you aren't reading what I am writing or you can't read.</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm willing to bet I have written more lines of Open Source code over more years than you have. So don't start assigning some kind of evil capitalist motives on me.</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">The fact that I don't have code going into enStratus that is not of use to OpenStack is not an indication that a) I have some kind of "everything-is-a-commercial-agenda" worldview or b) that I don't do Open Source or c) I don't think that some Open Source is a labor of love.</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">OpenStack is a commercial agenda however. Pretending that it's a labor of love and people should feel lucky to get functionality is just daft.</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">-George</div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">--<br>George Reese - Chief Technology Officer, enStratus<br>e: <a href="mailto:george.reese@enstratus.com">george.reese@enstratus.com</a> Skype: nspollution t: @GeorgeReese p: +1.207.956.0217<br>enStratus: Enterprise Cloud Management - @enStratus - <a href="http://www.enstratus.com/">http://www.enstratus.com</a><br>To schedule a meeting with me: <a href="http://tungle.me/GeorgeReese">http://tungle.me/GeorgeReese</a></div></span></span>
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