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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If the approach would be to use the client tools to “only smoke test” the Openstack API, I would somewhat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">agree. I think the smoke tests should be shallow but wide, covering every API in OpenStack but not ever ‘scenario’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So to me a “subset of test cases” would be a subset of “test cases from every OpenStack API” that would make a smoke suite.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If the default client tools are ahead of the Tempest Rest client library with regard to API coverage, then it would make sense to use them<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">to quickly build a smoke test suite, IMHO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The client managers should be used only to contribute to smoke tests, and not used randomly for more detailed scenario tests.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’d agree with Daryl in saying that we should avoid Tempest to smoke test or any test the client tools, rather use them to smoke test<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">the API. The client tools should have their own tests.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Rohit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> openstack-bounces+rohit.karajgi=nttdata.com@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+rohit.karajgi=nttdata.com@lists.launchpad.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daryl Walleck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 04, 2012 1:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jay Pipes<br>
<b>Cc:</b> openstack-qa-team@lists.launchpad.net; <openstack@lists.launchpad.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openstack] [QA] Aligning "smoke" / "acceptance" / "promotion" test efforts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So my first question is around this. So is the claim is that the client tools are the default interface for the applications? While that works for coders in python, what about people using other languages? Even then, there's no guarantee
that the clients in different languages are implemented in the same way. Tempest was designed originally because while it does use an abstraction between the API and the tests, there is nothing to "assist" the user by retrying and the like. While I think there's
a place for writing tests using the command line clients, to me that would be a smoke test of a client and not as much a smoke test of the API.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Daryl<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On May 3, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Jay Pipes wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">However, before this can happen, a number of improvements need to be made to Tempest. The issue with the "smoke tests" in Tempest is that
they aren't really smoke tests. They do not use the default client tools (like novaclient, keystoneclient, etc) and are not annotated consistently.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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