<div class="gmail_extra">Why can't Dough / Kanyun be used for this?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Endre.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/4/23 Brian Schott <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brian.schott@nimbisservices.com" target="_blank">brian.schott@nimbisservices.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">The heart of nova-biling is built around accounts, resources, billing segments with a tariff and cost. Not clear at my first review where/how these costs are set.<div>
<br></div><div>Brian<br><div><br></div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Apr 22, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Luis Gervaso wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_extra">I see this is an accounting system, a billing system needs things like promotional codes, vat, invoices ...</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I'm proposing the way the events should be orchestated</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Please, correct me, if i'm wrong</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Luis</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Atul Jha <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Atul.Jha@csscorp.com" target="_blank">Atul.Jha@csscorp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
Has anyone checked this <a href="http://www.griddynamics.com/openstack/docs/nova-billing/quickstart.html" target="_blank">http://www.griddynamics.com/openstack/docs/nova-billing/quickstart.html</a><br>
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What is Dough then compared to what you want to do ?<br>
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</div>2012/4/22 Endre Karlson <<a href="mailto:endre.karlson@gmail.com" target="_blank">endre.karlson@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:endre.karlson@gmail.com" target="_blank">endre.karlson@gmail.com</a>>><br>
<div>What is Dough then ?<br>
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<div>I see this blueprint for metering, but none for Dough currently.<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openstack.org/EfficientMetering" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstack.org/EfficientMetering</a><br>
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Here are the Dough slides, however:<br>
<a href="http://www.slideshare.net/lzyeval/dough-openstack-billing-project" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/lzyeval/dough-openstack-billing-project</a><br>
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We collectively need to talk more about the user scenarios, because I don't think you can just put a decorator around the API rpc calls and get an accurate picture of what to bill for later. There are metered things like bandwidth or IOPS, events that happen outside of the API (shutdown -h), and it is hard to predict what a reseller will want to charge for. It is better to put a metering system in that can handle many billing configurations.<br>
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On Apr 22, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Luis Gervaso wrote:<br>
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Dough is the proposed billing platform/product (where the billing rules live), isn't it?<br>
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I don't know Dough enough, so please me correct me if i'm wrong.<br>
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I'm trying to define a generic/agnostic integration process, obviously where Dough<br>
can fit perfectly. I would like it become part to the reference architecture.<br>
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Option 1) [3b in the arch proposed]<br>
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Dough should pull NoSQL<br>
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Option 2)<br>
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A Mediator can feed Dough<br>
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</div><div>On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Endre Karlson <<a href="mailto:endre.karlson@gmail.com" target="_blank">endre.karlson@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:endre.karlson@gmail.com" target="_blank">endre.karlson@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
What about using the Dough project?<br>
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Endre.<br>
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<div>What about using the Dough project ?<br>
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Endre.<br>
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<div>Hi,<br>
<br>
I want to share the architecture i am developing in order to perform the monitorig / billing OpenStack support:<br>
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1. AMQP Client which listen to RabbitMQ / QPid (this should be interchangeable) (Own Stuff or ServiceMix / Camel)<br>
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2. Events should be stored on a NoSQL document oriented database (I think mongodb is perfect, since we can query in a super easy fashion)<br>
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3a. The monitoring system can pull/push MongoDB<br>
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3b. The billing system can pull to create invoices<br>
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4. A mediation EIP should be necessary to integrate a billing/monitoring product. (ServiceMix / Camel)<br>
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This is to receive your feedback. So please, critics are welcome!<br>
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Cheers!<br>
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