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<div>I agree 100% with Michael. We need more users to come forward publicly. We are working on an updated tool for submitting that data (and a t-shirt incentive!), but in the meantime please send me your company name or clients names that we can list. I
have already been chatting with many of you about this separately, but for all those I haven't — please stand up and identify yourselves as an OpenStack user!</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a href="mailto:raja.meena@wipro.com">raja.meena@wipro.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:43:41 +0000<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Mark Collier <<a href="mailto:mark.collier@rackspace.com">mark.collier@rackspace.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:saurabh@safewlabs.com">saurabh@safewlabs.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span><<a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Openstack] OpenStack immaturity<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">+2 , I go with Saurabh.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Meena Raja<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:openstack-bounces+raja.meena=wipro.com@lists.launchpad.net">openstack-bounces+raja.meena=wipro.com@lists.launchpad.net</a> [<a href="mailto:openstack-bounces+raja.meena=wipro.com@lists.launchpad.net">mailto:openstack-bounces+raja.meena=wipro.com@lists.launchpad.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Collier<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 06, 2012 4:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Saurabh<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openstack] OpenStack immaturity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">+1 well said <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span style="color: black; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">Saurabh <<a href="mailto:saurabh@safewlabs.com">saurabh@safewlabs.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hey Guys<br>
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One of the user stories from my company. We are an SME and our customers are SMEs too. We are working on releasing documents in detail as well as discussing with the customers, for releasing the entire customizations to the community. We are working on releasing
all these in the form of a cookbook. We want to all to benefit from our experience as giving back to the community is a strong part of the open source ecosystem.<br>
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If people call OpenStack immature they should learn it's a community built product, if they feel it lacks in some way they should report to the community or feel free to fix stuff themselves :) .
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Stop worrying about gartner, if you feel it's something that can be improved , improve it and give it back.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Michaël Van de Borne <<a href="mailto:michael.vandeborne@cetic.be" target="_blank">michael.vandeborne@cetic.be</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Le 06/04/12 02:28, Michael March a écrit : <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I've been giving this thread some thought and it dawned on my that we need to expand this page:
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pretty much everyone featured on that page are 'big' organizations and there really isn't any detail on their experiences of trying to deploy (and maintain) Openstack. There's definitely not stories that a mid-range sized IT shop could
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<p class="MsoNormal">This lack of antidotal user experiences I think contributes the perceived immaturity of OpenStack.<o:p></o:p></p>
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