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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Essex is a key release in this respect. With the excellent work done by the developers, testers and packaging teams, OpenStack is much better positioned than with Diablo.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As the work proceeds on Folsom, back porting critical bugs and planning for a smooth migration path for production sites will become factors in keeping the early adopters enthusiastic. These are the user stories that will drive the next wave of OpenStack growth as much as expanding the feature set.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tim Bell<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>CERN <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern.ch@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+tim.bell=cern.ch@lists.launchpad.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jan Drake<br><b>Sent:</b> 04 April 2012 16:37<br><b>To:</b> Razique Mahroua<br><b>Cc:</b> openstack@lists.launchpad.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openstack] OpenStack immaturity<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hmmmm. While ease of deployment is definitely "an area of future strength" for OS, the gap is closing rapidly and the reality for the enterprise is that initial, comparable (apples to apples) VMWare installations all come with an initial professional services engagement anyway.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Having just done a bake-off twixt the latest OS builds and VMWare for creating an enterprise private IaaS cloud, my strategic money's on OpenStack and the community is starting to make significant in-roads on the tactical value as well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Lots of "areas of future strength" but the promise remains immense and the feasibility for the enterprise continues to grow.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Keep up the good work. Keep Calm, Carry On, and all that.<br><br>Jan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>PS: Anybody got an extra ticket to the design summit?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Apr 4, 2012, at 6:14 AM, Razique Mahroua <<a href="mailto:razique.mahroua@gmail.com">razique.mahroua@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>The "immaturity" being exposed here has nothing to do with neither stability nor bugs - in fact the angle is more about an ease of deployment.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Such statements are not new, and well known from "enterprises" point of view.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I remember same articles about Linux, few years back about Zimbra, few months back about proxmox, etc...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is an endless statement : "Is it possible for a community-driven project to find it's place in business needs ?" The answer for Openstack is NO, when it comes to ease of deployment compared to VMmware, and any CLI-less required installers...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But even if fantastic progress has been made, on the different projects, let's face it, even more progress are required today to give a satisfaction to the OP.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Let's keep working as we are doing : fixing, testing, thinking, updating. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>When all the projects will be stable enough to work on a same level - I'm quite confident we could see more positives feedbacks from Gartner<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#13708A'>Nuage & Co - Razique Mahroua </span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#13708A'><a href="mailto:razique.mahroua@gmail.com">razique.mahroua@gmail.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><span class=apple-style-span><NUAGECO-LOGO-Fblan_petit.jpg> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Le 4 avr. 2012 à 14:48, Jacek Artymiak a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>It depends on what you expect OpenStack to do for you. If you want<br>pre-packaged, click-to-install software, it is not there, yet. But if<br>you want to be able to influence the future of the project you want to<br>bet your business on, you have a much higher chance of doing that with<br>OpenStack than with other projects in this space.<br><br>Just my $.02 worth.<br><br>Jacek Artymiak<br>author: <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/programmer/content/">http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/programmer/content/</a><br>(please submit patches so we can improve this document)<br><br>On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Sébastien Han <<a href="mailto:han.sebastien@gmail.com">han.sebastien@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi everyone,<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>According to the statement of this article from Gartner<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>group <a href="http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2012/04/03/citrix-cloudstack-openstack-and-the-war-for-open-source-clouds/">http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2012/04/03/citrix-cloudstack-openstack-and-the-war-for-open-source-clouds/</a> Openstack is a<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>highly immature platform.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>But why? What's make Openstack so immature?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Any comments on that?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you in advance :)<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mailing list: <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br>Post to : <a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a><br>Unsubscribe : <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br>More help : <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp">https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Mailing list: <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br>Post to : <a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a><br>Unsubscribe : <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br>More help : <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp">https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>