<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hmmmm. While ease of deployment is definitely "an area of future strength" for OS, the gap is closing rapidly and the reality for the enterprise is that initial, comparable (apples to apples) VMWare installations all come with an initial professional services engagement anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>Having just done a bake-off twixt the latest OS builds and VMWare for creating an enterprise private IaaS cloud, my strategic money's on OpenStack and the community is starting to make significant in-roads on the tactical value as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Lots of "areas of future strength" but the promise remains immense and the feasibility for the enterprise continues to grow.</div><div><br></div><div>Keep up the good work. Keep Calm, Carry On, and all that.<br><br>Jan</div><div><br></div><div>PS: Anybody got an extra ticket to the design summit?<br><br></div><div><br>On Apr 4, 2012, at 6:14 AM, Razique Mahroua <<a href="mailto:razique.mahroua@gmail.com">razique.mahroua@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>The "immaturity" being exposed here has nothing to do with neither stability nor bugs - in fact the angle is more about an ease of deployment.<div>Such statements are not new, and well known from "enterprises" point of view.</div><div>I remember same articles about Linux, few years back about Zimbra, few months back about proxmox, etc...</div><div><br></div><div>This is an endless statement : "Is it possible for a community-driven project to find it's place in business needs ?" The answer for Openstack is NO, when it comes to ease of deployment compared to VMmware, and any CLI-less required installers...</div><div>But even if fantastic progress has been made, on the different projects, let's face it, even more progress are required today to give a satisfaction to the OP.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's keep working as we are doing : fixing, testing, thinking, updating. </div><div>When all the projects will be stable enough to work on a same level - I'm quite confident we could see more positives feedbacks from Gartner</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>Le 4 avr. 2012 à 14:48, Jacek Artymiak a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>It depends on what you expect OpenStack to do for you. If you want<br>pre-packaged, click-to-install software, it is not there, yet. But if<br>you want to be able to influence the future of the project you want to<br>bet your business on, you have a much higher chance of doing that with<br>OpenStack than with other projects in this space.<br><br>Just my $.02 worth.<br><br>Jacek Artymiak<br>author: <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/programmer/content/">http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/programmer/content/</a><br>(please submit patches so we can improve this document)<br><br>On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Sébastien Han <<a href="mailto:han.sebastien@gmail.com">han.sebastien@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Hi everyone,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">According to the statement of this article from Gartner<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">group <a href="http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2012/04/03/citrix-cloudstack-openstack-and-the-war-for-open-source-clouds/">http://blogs.gartner.com/lydia_leong/2012/04/03/citrix-cloudstack-openstack-and-the-war-for-open-source-clouds/</a> Openstack is a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">highly immature platform.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">But why? What's make Openstack so immature?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Any comments on that?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thank you in advance :)<br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mailing list: <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br>Post to : <a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a><br>Unsubscribe : <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br>More help : <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp">https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Mailing list: <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a></span><br><span>Post to : <a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a></span><br><span>Unsubscribe : <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a></span><br><span>More help : <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp">https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>