<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>From what I understand, the SmokeStack integration tests are running on Ubuntu 11.10 (XenServer) and Fedora 16 (Libvirt), so as a practical matter those platforms will be more battle-tested even if they aren't officially blessed as supported platforms.</div><div><br></div><div>Take care,</div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Lorin</div><div>--</div><div>Lorin Hochstein</div><div>Lead Architect - Cloud Services</div><div>Nimbis Services, Inc.</div><div><a href="https://www.nimbisservices.com/">www.nimbisservices.com</a></div><div><br></div></div></span></div></span></span></div><br><div><div>On Mar 13, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Justin Santa Barbara wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I certainly understand your position Thierry. However, I think it is<br>important that we target one 'golden' platform, and that we take<br>responsibility for any issues with that platform. Otherwise we simply<br>end up pointing fingers and being blocked on backports, and the end<br>result is a system that just doesn't work for the people actually<br>deploying it. "File a bug upstream" is an appropriate response for<br>me, but it's not really OK for end-users.<br><br>We could then have a policy that 'if Essex fails on TargetPlatform<br>it's an OpenStack issue, otherwise it's a distro issue'. We can<br>either work around the bug or work with TargetPlatform to get a bugfix<br>integrated. Other distros can look to the golden platform to<br>understand what patches are needed and how things are supposed to<br>work.<br><br>It sounds like Precise is a good candidate for Essex: it is an LTS<br>release, and we have time to ensure that any required bugfixes (that<br>we don't want to work around) make it into the official release.<br><br>If that's agreeable, then e.g. we probably retarget devstack and our<br>documentation from Oneiric to Precise. We should probably gate on<br>Precise as well.<br><br>I will be much happier if we just say "we aim to support X"; I don't<br>really care what X is. I'm just going to be running OpenStack on the<br>machine, so I'm not picking my distro e.g. based on how I feel about<br>Unity. I'd imagine most users are in a similar camp.<br><br>Justin<br><br><br><br>On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:00 AM, Thierry Carrez <<a href="mailto:thierry@openstack.org">thierry@openstack.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Justin Santa Barbara wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Which operating system(s) are we aiming to support for Essex? Is the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">plan to backport the latest libvirt to Oneric, or are we going to wait<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">for Precise?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The question is the other way around: which operating systems aim to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">support Essex ? We try to set the dependencies for OpenStack to a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">reasonable set of versions (generally compatible with the release under<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">development of the major Linux distributions), but it's up to the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">distributions themselves to make sure they align if they want to support<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">a given version of OpenStack.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Ubuntu will ship Essex in 12.04 LTS. I don't think there are any plans<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to backport it to 11.10. Fedora will support Essex in Fedora 17, etc.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Thierry Carrez (ttx)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Release Manager, OpenStack<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Mailing list: <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Post to : <a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Unsubscribe : <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">More help : <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp">https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp</a><br></blockquote><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mailing list: <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br>Post to : <a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a><br>Unsubscribe : <a href="https://launchpad.net/~openstack">https://launchpad.net/~openstack</a><br>More help : <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp">https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>