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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear all:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> The release of openstack on my server is D3. I tred to
run '</span><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>qemu-kvm -hda /root/free.img
-m 512 -vga qxl -spice port=5930,disable-ticketing '<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>without openstack , it worked well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>However,I have tried to modify the '/opt/stack/nova/nova/virt/libvirt.xml.template'
in order to let the spice work with the openstack. Then it failed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> Is there anyone tried this? Could you give me some help?
Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Yours.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Suyi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>发件人<span lang=EN-US>:</span></span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>
openstack-bounces+wangsuyi640=gmail.com@lists.launchpad.net
[mailto:openstack-bounces+wangsuyi640=gmail.com@lists.launchpad.net] </span><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>代表 </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>Devin
Carlen<br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>发送时间<span lang=EN-US>:</span></span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> 2012</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>年<span
lang=EN-US>3</span>月<span lang=EN-US>10</span>日<span lang=EN-US> 7:00<br>
</span><b>收件人<span lang=EN-US>:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Mark Collier<br>
</span><b>抄送<span lang=EN-US>:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> foundation@lists.openstack.org;
OpenStack<br>
</span><b>主题<span lang=EN-US>:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Re: [Openstack]
[OpenStack Foundation] Foundation Structure: An Alternative<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Mark, one thing that I am curious about -
there doesn't seem to be language in the foundation structure document that
would prevent "individual" members from organizations that are also
"strategic" members from also being on the board. Is there any
language that prevents board stacking? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Devin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang=EN-US style='color:#A0A0A8'>On Friday, March 9, 2012 at 2:27 PM,
Mark Collier wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Josh,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Thanks for taking
the time to consider the proposed structure and provide your thoughts on
it. I don't think your concerns are very far off from what we are wanting
to address with the Associate Member category, which allows more companies to
be represented at a lower price point. The current funding proposal is on
the wiki for reference: <a
href="http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Foundation/Funding">http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Foundation/Funding</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Let me address a
few of your points regarding the proposed plan:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Accessibility</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>: Associate Member fees start at
$50k/year which is substantially lower than a $200k/year flat fee model.
The members will elect resprenstatives as a class to the Board. Those
Board members will have the same roles and responsibilities as any other Board
member. Additionally, companies who wish to show their support for OpenStack
may also become a sponsor without paying the full Associate Member fee.
Sponsor levels have not been worked out, but I suspect they will start in the
20k/year range.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Board Size</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>: My sense is that with a flat fee of
200k/year, we would still get many more than 15-20 interested parties, which
would quickly overwhelm the board, making it unmanageable. The Associate
Member concept mitigates this issue by allowing the class to grow (for
accessibility), without the seats balooning, by having elected
representatives. It also reduces the risk of shaking up the board makeup
and size through acquisition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Strategic
Member fees</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>: One
small clarification: the proposal calls for Strategic Members to make a
commitment of $500k/year for 5 years, paid annually (not up front). This figure
was driven primarily by the need to arrive at a reasonable board size, while
also raising substantial funds for foundation operations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Strategic
Member dominance</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>:
Board members who are appointed by Strategic Members will make up only 1/3 of
the board, and will have the same roles and responsibilties as the other board
members. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Requirement for
Strategic Members to have full time staff</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.5pt'>: The current structure proposal states that
Strategic Members must "Provide dedicated resources (e.g. developers,
legal resources)" and the funding proposal states that "...the
general expectation is a resource commitment that is consistent with staffing
two full time equivalents" so it looks like we are on the same page re: 2
FTE requirement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>I hope many other
folks take the opporunity to weigh in, both on this mailing list as well as in
the webinars we'll be holding next week and in any other forum that suits your
fancy. I'll also try to keep up with all of the blogging and tweeting, as
if that's possible!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Joshua
McKenty <<a href="mailto:joshua@pistoncloud.com">joshua@pistoncloud.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:20:17 -0800<br>
<b>To: </b>OpenStack <<a href="mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net">openstack@lists.launchpad.net</a>>,
<<a href="mailto:foundation@lists.openstack.org">foundation@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[OpenStack Foundation] Foundation Structure: An Alternative<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>I'll be the first
to admit that I'm not a diplomatic person. When we were launching OpenStack,
this was a bit of an advantage (if we had waited for permission before
releasing the Nova source code, we'd still be waiting) - but since the first
summit, the community has grown so quickly, and become so diverse, that I have
tried to leave discussions of governance, foundation structure, dispute
resolution, and most particularly monetary corporate contributions, to others
with more... tact.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>But now I feel I
have no choice but to speak up; I'm deeply concerned. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>The biggest,
splashiest openstack stories of the past two years have all had the names of
huge, multi-national corporations in them - names like IBM, AT&T, Dell, HP,
and CISCO. And while their participation has been tremendously positive for the
project (with Quantum and Crowbar standing as examples of this), I see things
trending in a direction that makes me nervous for the smaller players - for the
startups who will live or die on the strength of the OpenStack project. Like
Piston Cloud.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>The current
official proposal for the foundation creates a new class of super-members -
with a sticker price of $2.5M (due up front) that puts it out of reach of all
but a small handful of organizations. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>This is not a new
idea - it was the first structural proposal for the foundation that I heard
from the organizing team, and I have argued against it (at times seemingly
successfully) continuously since last fall.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>I understand why
it is appealing; it creates a small and manageable board of directors, with a
large pool of resources, who shouldn't have too much trouble guiding and
directing the outcomes of OpenStack. But it's not a structure that represents
or embodies the principles that OpenStack was founded upon, and I think that
while it may offer some short-term benefits, it may be damaging to the long-term
health of the project because it strangles the ecosystem of contributing
companies we've worked so hard to create. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>The
"right" structure is a much harder thing to organize:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - It
recognizes and requires project contribution (code, tests, docs, bugs and
evangelism) along with cash<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - It has a
single class of corporate member, a level playing field<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - It has
room for non-corporate members in the meaningful governance bodies (not tucked
away in 'advisory' boards)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - It
aggressively and publicly resolves the conflict-of-interest between the
'company hat' and the 'project hat'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>My understanding
of the key challenges of this foundation board are the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - Keep it
small enough to be manageable (21 directors or less)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - Supply
enough funding to carry on with most of the current project support activities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - Ensure
representation of the diversity of the OpenStack community<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - Provide a
mechanism for "industry luminaries" as well as OpenStack users and
consumers to provide input and feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>The target budget
of the Foundation is around $3M per year. Without getting into a discussion
about whether that's reasonable or not, I'd like to brainstorm how we could
reach that goal in a way that better reflects our goals for an open and
democratic community. How's this for a proposal:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - One class
of corporate member<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - Provide
reasonable evidence of 2 FTE (full time equivalents) working on OpenStack in
some capacity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - Commit to
2 years of sponsorship, on an evergreen basis, but paid annually<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'> - Individual
members, if there are any, cannot be employed by a corporate member<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>My rough
calculation, having a reasonably good grasp of the interests and level of
engagement of the various corporations in the OpenStack ecosystem, is that we
could expect around 15 of the 150 companies involved to meet these
requirements. $3M divided by 15 = $200,000. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>It's a high
playing field, but at least it's a level one. It doesn't change the structure
or composition of the technical committee, and it doesn't limit the ability of
the foundation to raise money in other ways (sell sponsorships for events,
charge admission for conferences, even license the use of the trademark for
training or certification). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>If we have a
simple pay-to-play model, then we can trust market economics and enforce
transparency of spending. If we have a simple "meritocracy", then we
can expect the most skilled and dedicated to rise to the top, provided we're
extremely careful about how we measure skill and dedication. If we blend the
two, I'm deeply concerned that we'll see the worst of both systems play out
over time - the selfishness of market-driven economics dominating our decisions
with the petulant moralism of the meritocracy. Hoping for any other outcome is,
in my opinion, foolish optimism. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>At the core of
OpenStack is the idea that a single project could address the needs of ALL of
our organizations - large, small, producers, consumers, non-profits and tool
makers. We need to guard that vision, and protect it from our best intentions.
No one in the community, whether individual contributor or corporate sponsor,
can claim to speak for (or even understand the perspective of) the majority of
us. We're simply too numerous, and too diverse. If you believe, as I do, that
*your* company should have a stake in OpenStack's future, then now is the time
to speak up in favor of the level playing field we originally set out to
create. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>With (attempted)
diplomacy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt'>Joshua<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>Joshua McKenty<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>Co-Founder, OpenStack</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>CEO, Piston Cloud Computing, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>w: (650) 24-CLOUD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>m: (650) 283-6846<br>
<a href="http://www.pistoncloud.com">http://www.pistoncloud.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>"Oh, Westley,
we'll never survive!"<br>
"Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Foundation mailing list <a href="mailto:Foundation@lists.openstack.org">Foundation@lists.openstack.org</a>
<a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation</a>
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href="mailto:Foundation@lists.openstack.org">Foundation@lists.openstack.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><a
href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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