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    <tt>Sounds pretty good Vish.<br>
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      Since we are mostly deployers, and the ones who are gonna try the
      new code from day zero, whats good for Sandy, its good for us.<br>
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      Alejandro.<br>
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    On 02/01/2012 06:57 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote:
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      cite="mid:26D49C04-5875-4406-8FD5-5C237DAD2569@gmail.com"
      type="cite">Thanks for the feedback. It is good to get input from
      one of the largest openstack installs! So it sounds like the
      existing code is pretty broken. Based on this feedback I would
      like to propose the following:
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      <div>1) cut out zones code</div>
      <div>  (meaning merge the existing branch)</div>
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      <div>2) grant an FFe for the new rpc based zone code as long is it
        can be merged without heavily modifying core.</div>
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      <div>This means:</div>
      <div>a) it should be deployable with the feature disabled</div>
      <div>b) it should only include minor modifications to core
        components</div>
      <div>c) if a major change is needed to distributed_scheduler (for
        example), consider leaving the existing version in, and copying
        the code to a new file (distributed_scheduler_v2) and doing the
        modifications there.  That way we can minimize chances of
        breakage</div>
      <div>d) it needs to be merged by the 15th</div>
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      <div>Does that seem reasonable?</div>
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      <div>Vish</div>
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            <div>On Feb 1, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Alejandro Comisario wrote:</div>
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi guys.<br>
                Its true that we are trying to make multizones work,
                actually we did, but we get into an instance were
                listing all vms from the parent zone ( where is has to
                go thru all the child zones ) is buggy ( if not
                impossible by now ).<br>
                So, if there is a new zone architecture that actually
                works ( we want to stop using our own deployer to do
                that ) or has a chance to be fully working when 2012-1
                is out, (we would prefer not to wait till Folsom) we are
                totally into it ! since by now, we were actually waiting
                for this new Zones code to come out to try again.<br>
                <br>
                Alejandro.<br>
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                On 02/01/2012 06:17 PM, Nathanael Burton wrote:
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                  <p>+1</p>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 1, 2012 4:13 PM,
                    "Vishvananda Ishaya" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:vishvananda@gmail.com">vishvananda@gmail.com</a>>

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                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      I would prefer that if it can be done super-super
                      fast. :)<br>
                      <br>
                      Vish<br>
                      <br>
                      On Feb 1, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Chris Behrens wrote:<br>
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                      > I wonder if we can use some of the
                      architecture of the new code and move the current
                      implementation to that model.  It'd preserve the
                      existing functionality, set us up for the new
                      implementation, and fits in with 'cleanup' for E4,
                      etc.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Vishvananda
                      Ishaya <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:vishvananda@gmail.com">vishvananda@gmail.com</a>>

                      wrote:<br>
                      ><br>
                      >> I am all for pulling this out, but I'm a
                      bit concerned with the fact that we have nothing
                      to replace it with. There are some groups still
                      trying to use it. MercadoLibre is trying to use it
                      for example. I know you guys are trying to replace
                      this with something better, but it would be nice
                      not to break people for 7+ months<br>
                      >><br>
                      >><br>
                      >> So I guess I have some questions:<br>
                      >> 1.a) is the current implementation
                      completely broken?<br>
                      >><br>
                      >> 1.b) if yes, is it fixable<br>
                      >><br>
                      >> 2) If we do remove this, what can we tell
                      people that need something like zones between now
                      and the Folsom release?<br>
                      >><br>
                      >> Vish<br>
                      >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Sandy Walsh
                      wrote:<br>
                      >><br>
                      >>> As part of the new (and optional)
                      Zones code coming down the pipe, part of this is
                      to remove the old Zones implementation.<br>
                      >>><br>
                      >>> More info in the merge prop:<br>
                      >>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://review.openstack.org/#change,3629"
                        target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#change,3629</a><br>
                      >>><br>
                      >>> So, can I? can I? Huh?<br>
                      >>>
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