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Is it ok if i create undercloud on VMware because its easier to take
snapshot and clone etc.

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On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Fawaz Mohammed
<fawaz.moh.ibraheem at gmail.com> wrote:
> In case your undercloud is dead, there will no be any impact in your
> overcloud, but you will not be able to perform day 2 operations on your
> tripleO environment, such as scale-out / scale-in the infrastructure, update
> / upgrade your overcloud.
> For that, it's recommended to backup the undercloud at least after each
> operation in it.
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Fawaz Mohammed
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2018 8:23 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You have a point there!  Got it,
>
> One more question what will happened if deploy my cloud and second day
> my undercloud (TripleO) node is dead? is it going to impact my
> overcloud production?  because all recipe cooked inside undercloud and
> now its no more.
>
> Do you think i need to keep backup of undercloud?
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:21 AM, Fawaz Mohammed
> <fawaz.moh.ibraheem at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On TripleO deployment, it's a challenge to use VMs for any overclode role
>> (controller, compute or storage). As undercloud uses BMC / IPMI to control
>> the power if bare metal during the deployment.
>>
>> ---
>> Regards,
>> Fawaz Mohammed
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2018 8:07 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for info i will keep in mind, Can we use VM for controller
>> node?  or 1 physical and 2 VM controller node, just a thought
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:45 AM, Fawaz Mohammed
>> <fawaz.moh.ibraheem at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For TripleO deployment, you'll need:
>>> A separate node or VM as UnderCloud.
>>> 3 control nodes for HA, 2 controllers can't form HA by default, this is
>>> to
>>> avoid split-brain scenarios.
>>> For compute nodes, I recommend to have 2 x 10G ports, one for O&M and the
>>> other one for tenants. And a separate 1G for BMC / IPMI.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Regards,
>>> Fawaz Mohammed
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Satish Patel <satish.txt at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We are CentOS7 shop that is why i have started playing with TripleO on
>>>> my VMware environment to get familiar. what do you suggest for 20 node
>>>> cluster? we don't have any storage requirement all we need CPU and
>>>> Memory to run our application, currently all application running on
>>>> VMware and i want to migrate them over Openstack and do some rapid
>>>> deployment.
>>>>
>>>> This is what i am planning (let me if i am wrong)
>>>>
>>>> 2 controller node (in HA)
>>>> 2 Cisco ASR1k (L3 function in HA)
>>>> 20 compute node with 10G nic and lots of memory and many cpu cores.
>>>>
>>>> Anything else which i am missing?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Fawaz Mohammed
>>>> <fawaz.moh.ibraheem at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Satish,
>>>> >
>>>> > TripleO (Supported on CentOS and RHEL) and Juju (Supported on Ubuntu)
>>>> > [1]
>>>> > are the most used OpenStack deployment tools.
>>>> >
>>>> > From the deployment perspectives, you need to know your cloud setup
>>>> > and
>>>> > the
>>>> > required plugins to decide which deployment you will choose. As each
>>>> > tool
>>>> > has a pre-integrated plugging out of the box.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > [1]
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > https://docs.openstack.org/charm-deployment-guide/latest/install-juju.html
>>>> > ---
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Fawaz Mohammed
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Satish Patel <satish.txt at gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi Fawaz,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Great so you think I'm doing right thing to use ASR1k for my L3
>>>> >> function?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'm using DVR on my lab with 3 node cluster and it's kinda
>>>> >> complicated
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> troubleshoot sometime.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We are planning to build 20 node cluster for start and started
>>>> >> playing
>>>> >> with tripleo to deploy and having lots of issue with tripleo too :(
>>>> >> I
>>>> >> was
>>>> >> also thinking to use mirantis but they stopped development.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Based on your experience what most of folks use to deploy middle size
>>>> >> cloud? What about you?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Jan 31, 2018, at 11:48 PM, Fawaz Mohammed
>>>> >> <fawaz.moh.ibraheem at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.jimmdenton.com/networking-cisco-asr-install/ can beet your
>>>> >> requirements. I have another plugin in production from different
>>>> >> vendor
>>>> >> for
>>>> >> the same purpose. and it works perfect.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Regarding your question about the license, usually, there is no
>>>> >> license
>>>> >> for such plugins.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I've no production experience with DVR, and I don't recommend it in
>>>> >> medium
>>>> >> to large environment.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:58 AM, Satish Patel <satish.txt at gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> What about this?
>>>> >>> http://www.jimmdenton.com/networking-cisco-asr-part-two/
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ML2 does use ASR too,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Just curious what people mostly use in production? are they use DVR
>>>> >>> or
>>>> >>> some kind of hardware for L3?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Fawaz Mohammed
>>>> >>> <fawaz.moh.ibraheem at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> > Hi Santish,
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > In my knowlege, Cisco has ml2 driver for Nexus only.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > So, if you have requirements for dynamic L3 provisioning /
>>>> >>> > configuration,
>>>> >>> > it's better to go with SDN solution.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > On Jan 31, 2018 11:39 PM, "Satish Patel" <satish.txt at gmail.com>
>>>> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> So no one using ASR 1001 for Openstack?
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Satish Patel
>>>> >>> >> <satish.txt at gmail.com>
>>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>> >> > Folks,
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> > We are planning to deploy production style private cloud and
>>>> >>> >> > gathering
>>>> >>> >> > information about what we should use and why and i came across
>>>> >>> >> > with
>>>> >>> >> > couple of document related network node criticality and
>>>> >>> >> > performance
>>>> >>> >> > issue and many folks suggesting following
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> > 1. DVR (it seem complicated after reading, also need lots of
>>>> >>> >> > public
>>>> >>> >> > IP)
>>>> >>> >> > 2. Use ASR1k centralized router to use for L3 function  (any
>>>> >>> >> > idea
>>>> >>> >> > what
>>>> >>> >> > model should be good? or do we need any licensing to integrate
>>>> >>> >> > with
>>>> >>> >> > openstack?)
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> > Would like to get some input from folks who already using
>>>> >>> >> > openstack
>>>> >>> >> > in
>>>> >>> >> > production and would like to know what kind of deployment they
>>>> >>> >> > pick
>>>> >>> >> > for network/neutron performance?
>>>> >>> >>
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