[Openstack] Keystone tenants vs. Nova projects

Nguyen, Liem Manh liem_m_nguyen at hp.com
Thu Jul 14 20:07:34 UTC 2011


When one creates a user, should a user always have a tenant associated with her?  If that's the case, then the "default" tenant is the tenant that the user is associated with at creation time?  Sorry for responding to the question with another question, but it is unclear for me from looking at the model (there is no non-null constraint on the tenant_id fk on the user table).

Thanks,
Liem

From: openstack-bounces+liem_m_nguyen=hp.com at lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+liem_m_nguyen=hp.com at lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Ziad Sawalha
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:22 PM
To: Rouault, Jason (Cloud Services); Yuriy Taraday; openstack at lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Openstack] Keystone tenants vs. Nova projects

In the example I gave below they are not members of any group and have no roles assigned to them. Should they still be authenticated?

From: "Rouault, Jason (Cloud Services)" <jason.rouault at hp.com<mailto:jason.rouault at hp.com>>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:25:22 +0000
To: Ziad Sawalha <ziad.sawalha at rackspace.com<mailto:ziad.sawalha at rackspace.com>>, Yuriy Taraday <yorik.sar at gmail.com<mailto:yorik.sar at gmail.com>>, "openstack at lists.launchpad.net<mailto:openstack at lists.launchpad.net>" <openstack at lists.launchpad.net<mailto:openstack at lists.launchpad.net>>
Subject: RE: [Openstack] Keystone tenants vs. Nova projects

A user can specify a tenantID at the time of authentication.  If no tenantID is specified during authentication, then I would expect the 'default' tenant for the user would apply.  The capabilities of User1 on TenantA (in this case the default tenant for the user) would be determined by their role and group assignments within the context of TenantA.

Jason

From: Ziad Sawalha [mailto:ziad.sawalha at rackspace.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:35 PM
To: Rouault, Jason (Cloud Services); Yuriy Taraday; openstack at lists.launchpad.net<mailto:openstack at lists.launchpad.net>
Subject: Re: [Openstack] Keystone tenants vs. Nova projects

What if:


-          User1 has TenantA as her default tenant


Should the service authenticate the user against TenantA? And if so, why? What does the 'default tenant' grant User1 on TenantA? It's some nebulous,  implied role...



From: "Rouault, Jason (Cloud Services)" <jason.rouault at hp.com<mailto:jason.rouault at hp.com>>
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:18:44 +0000
To: Ziad Sawalha <ziad.sawalha at rackspace.com<mailto:ziad.sawalha at rackspace.com>>, Yuriy Taraday <yorik.sar at gmail.com<mailto:yorik.sar at gmail.com>>, "openstack at lists.launchpad.net<mailto:openstack at lists.launchpad.net>" <openstack at lists.launchpad.net<mailto:openstack at lists.launchpad.net>>
Subject: RE: [Openstack] Keystone tenants vs. Nova projects

If a user is bound to their default tenant, why wouldn't any role assignments for that user in their default tenant apply?


User1 authenticates specifying TenantB, this binds User1 into the context of TenantB.  In subsequent web service requests using the token received after authentication, the Auth component filter would decorate the headers with RoleY.
If User1 authenticates specifying TenantA, or specifying no Tenant,  this binds User1 into the context of TenantA.  The headers would then be decorated with RoleX.

Jason

From: openstack-bounces+jason.rouault=hp.com at lists.launchpad.net<mailto:openstack-bounces+jason.rouault=hp.com at lists.launchpad.net> [mailto:openstack-bounces+jason.rouault=hp.com at lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Ziad Sawalha
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 10:09 PM
To: Yuriy Taraday; openstack at lists.launchpad.net<mailto:openstack at lists.launchpad.net>
Subject: Re: [Openstack] Keystone tenants vs. Nova projects

Our goal is to support Nova use cases right now. You can provide access to multiple tenants using a role assignment (assigning a user a role on a specific tenant effectively binds them to that tenant).

However, this raises the issue of what the 'implied' role of a user is when they are bound to their default tenant. So we're considering how to alter the model to clean that up. No great solution yet. Any suggestions are welcome....

Ziad

From: Yuriy Taraday <yorik.sar at gmail.com<mailto:yorik.sar at gmail.com>>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:59:08 +0400
To: <openstack at lists.launchpad.net<mailto:openstack at lists.launchpad.net>>
Subject: [Openstack] Keystone tenants vs. Nova projects

Currently Keystone model assumes that user is bound to exactly one tenant. It conflicts with the fact that in Nova user can have access to several projects.
Which way will it be?
Kind regards, Yuriy.
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