<p dir="ltr">Hi Yoyo, could you please help to contact macjack re communication channels issue? That would be really helpful if you could work on it. Thanks. -Joanna</p>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-05-04 7:34 GMT+08:00 Joanna H. Huang <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joanna@aptira.com" target="_blank">joanna@aptira.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Hi Michael, <br>
<br>
Thanks for raising this topic. One of the main purposes with
Official OpenStack User Group is to promote the recognition of
active OpenStack user groups with great community engagement.
Although TWOSUG is one of the earliest developed user groups,
however, there are some issues in the user group which prevent it
from being considered as officially recognised (they are addressed
below). <br>
<br>
Darren Huang (from gov perspectives) and I (from community
perspectives) have been working closely with the Foundation
towards recognising TWOSUG as an official user group. <br>
<br>
I've also made an annual plan for TWOSUG based on OpenStack
official user group process and event policy, as well as asked for
help from our community to turn TWOSUG official as soon as we
possibly can this year. Please take a look at the etherpad there
you can find what we should do to <b>make TWOSUG official</b>: <br>
<br>
<b><a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/twosug_organising_2016" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/twosug_organising_2016</a></b><br>
<br>
In brief, the two major issues in TWOSUG are the <b>communication
channels</b> and <b>regular community events</b>. <br>
<br>
1) Most of the current communication channels (including FB group,
Meetup group, user group website, Google group) are controlled and
managed by only one person, that's macjack. We do value macjack's
great efforts in the user group, however, we need him to open up
on the communication channel management in light of the Foundation
official user group process
(<a href="https://groups.openstack.org/official-group-process" target="_blank">https://groups.openstack.org/official-group-process</a>). I've tried
all the channels I could possibly reach him in order to solve this
major issue. Unfortunately no response from him so far. If any of
you who can help to reach him and get him to speak with Darren or
I, that would be really helpful. I've been hoping to solve this
issue within our user group before escalate it to Lauren Sell.
However, we have been waiting for macjack's response for almost
half an year. Wish we could improve it soon. <br>
<br>
2) Lacking of regular community events. Speaking to the
Foundation, this is another major issue that we should start
working on. Once we have organised regular events to facilitate
community involvement, TWOSUG should become official one very
soon. That's the main reason why I've made the annual plan for
2016 and been hoping to promote OpenStack technology in the user
group in any level. <br>
<br>
There are also some other minor issues such as lacking of event
organisation resources, technical/non-technical sharing, diverse
user involvement. But so far we are making good progress on fixing
those issues. <br>
<br>
TWOSUS needs everyone's engagement to make it better, especially
taking action at first step. Everyone is very welcome to join the
user group organising team if you would like to make commitment
into volunteering for community work. <br>
<br>
If you guys all agree, I think it's better direct the following
discussion to <a href="mailto:openstack-tw@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-tw@lists.openstack.org</a> mailing list for
wide and open discussion. <br>
<br>
Please also feel free to let me know if you have any comments or
suggestion. <br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Joanna<div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 03/05/16 23:41, Michael Jenkins wrote:<br>
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Hi Yoyo,
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</div>
<div>Thank you for your questions. I’ve embedded links to
the description of the requirements (<a href="https://groups.openstack.org/official-group-process" target="_blank">https://groups.openstack.org/official-group-process</a>)
and the list of recognized groups (<a href="https://groups.openstack.org/groups" target="_blank">https://groups.openstack.org/groups</a>).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I feel that in the future it will be easier to get
the Foundation’s support for events and hackathons.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>BR, Michael</div>
<div><br>
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<div>On 3 May 2016, at 23:36 , Yoyo Chiang <<a href="mailto:yoyochiang@geminiopencloud.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:yoyochiang@geminiopencloud.com" target="_blank">yoyochiang@geminiopencloud.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks Mike for your great effort!</p>
<p dir="ltr">So what's the process we need to
apply? And what's the different between official and
non-official?</p>
<p dir="ltr">TWOSUG has been existed for 5 years
and it's some what weird to learn that it's
non-official.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Anyway, we'll try to make it
official indeed.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Yoyo</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">2016年5月3日 23:21於 "Michael
Jenkins" <<a href="mailto:md.jenkins@icloud.com" target="_blank">md.jenkins@icloud.com</a>>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Taiwan
OpenStack Leaders,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>During last weeks summit, Tom Fifield
presented the community with the status of the <a href="https://groups.openstack.org/official-group-process" target="_blank">official user groups</a>.
Currently there are twelve members, and Taiwan is
currently <a href="https://groups.openstack.org/groups" target="_blank">not officially
recognized</a>. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I propose that we work together to
make sure TWOSUG is Official!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think it would be wonderful to
announce our official user group status this July
during Taiwan OpenStack Day. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please let me know what you think. If
there is interest then I’ll dig into the details
to help make this happen.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Michael </div>
<div><br>
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