[openstack-tw] App Hackathon update meeting

Jerry Chou jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw
Fri Jan 15 07:47:25 UTC 2016 

Hi Michael,
  I think this is a great idea!
  I can give it a try on our testbed, and do some pressure test first.
  Since we have limited public IPs from school, we will only provide the
private IP access.
  If everything works out, I can also help on running the workshop on this.

Cheers,
Jerry


On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Michael Jenkins <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Jerry,
>
> One possible way to proceed would be to consider adopting the *Building
> Your First App on OpenStack*
> <http://developer.openstack.org/firstapp-libcloud/getting_started.html> guide
> to assess and educate. David has suggested it might be possible to run a
> workshop during the week leading up to the hackathon and using the guide.
>
> What do you think about this approach?
>
> Best regards,
> Michael
>
> Video:
> https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/build-and-operate-your-first-openstack-application
>
> On 14 Jan 2016, at 01:12 , Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>   Yes, it is certainly possible to use it for pre-screen.
>   Once you have more details about the competency test, we can try to work
> it out for the best we can.
>
> Best,
> Jerry
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Michael Jenkins <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jerry,
>>
>> Thank you for the generous offer to use SSCloud for training and testing.
>> I’m sure we can benefit from the early use of your platform. I’m curious —
>> would there be a way we could use your system to help pre-screen
>> participants (i.e. create a participant competency test) to help evaluate
>> knowledge/experience levels?
>>
>> I’m in support of your suggestion about having the chairs create a
>> judging criteria. I believe that David Flanders has also started compiling
>> some thoughts along this same line; and would like to coordinate amongst
>> the four of you along with ITRI/IDOT/MOEA and QCT.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michael
>>
>> On 12 Jan 2016, at 21:09 , Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>   As mentioned in the meetup today, NTHU is hosting a openstack platform
>> called SSCloud (https://www.unicloud.org.tw/services/sscloud).
>>   We are glad to offer it as a training and testing platform.
>>   You may find the user manual and hardware spec on the webpage.
>>   If you need any further information, please feel free to contact me
>>   or our technical supporting staff "Chen-Hao Ku" (
>> jhku at sslab.cs.nthu.edu.tw)
>>
>>   For judging, I also suggest to let the chairs of three tracks to gather
>> a list of judging criteria in their own area as a guideline for the
>> competition, while the topic, data, tools and devices can keep open to
>> inspire more creativity.
>>   For instance, from the point of "system", we would like to see the
>> application is built on top of a backend solution with HA, load balance and
>> elasticity.
>>   If we have a agreement on this idea, I can give you my concrete list by
>> the weekend.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:37 PM, David F Flanders <flanders at openstack.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > In addition to the video are the notes from the meeting below.
>> > Please feel invited to reply with questions/suggestions using inline
>> reply:
>> >
>> > Attendees: Michael, Rico, Tom, Anita, Danny, Jack, Allen, Dr Chung,
>> Christopher, Dr Lai, Flanders (video conf)
>> >
>> > 1. Update by Project Manager (Michael)
>> > --> Welcome the large group on experts
>> > --> introduced the hackathon and current status to the group
>> > --> Idea began back in October to help increase awareness of building
>> applications (mobile, web, etc.)
>> > --> This will be the first application hackathon (alpha) which
>> OpenStack will run.
>> > --> Many events around the world will be run by OpenStack community
>> based on this first event.
>> >
>> > 2. Site Selection
>> > --> Michael introduced the two different sites
>> > --> Dates of event and numbers of people will be decided once a venue
>> is selected.
>> > --> Potential use of Airforce Base or Hack space in Taipai
>> > --> Hoping to have a venue selected by end of the week
>> > --> Hoping to have Hackathon mid March
>> >
>> > 3. Development Objective & Event Theme
>> > --> Michael introduced the Smart Commerce development objectives
>> > --> Application developer problem scope: smart commerce apps
>> > --> potential to use iBeacon and 4G/LTE technologies for tracking
>> shoppers.
>> > --> we will have a call for volunteers to support the event and
>> technology hardware
>> > --> request for judging panel and team leads (mentors)
>> > --> rough estimate: 40-50 teams of teams 3-6 people. Judging in
>> parallel, like american idol?
>> > --> Hoping that University Profs and/or Students able to be judges
>> and/or mentors
>> > --> Encourage professors to invite their students to participate.
>> > --> Encouraging industry to send their best developers to lead (mentor)
>> teams
>> > --> How can participants utiilse the 4G/LTE+iBeacon technology on site
>> at the hackathon?
>> > --> Looking for partners to connect the devices to OpenStack directly.
>> >
>> > Discussion:
>> > --> Professor Zhen: good topic, current trend, MOEA, data analytics -
>> availability of suitable data is very crucial,
>> > --> Youbike data - from yuan hua
>> > --> open test space
>> > --> would advise to have pre-built images
>> > --> basic tools - only fundamentals - save some time, but leave room to
>> develop advanced things
>> > --> originality constraint in the judging
>> > --> only provide dataset, etc
>> > --> Judging criteria discussion: emphasize the goal - creativity,
>> scalability etc; publish rules online - eg what can you do beforehand;
>> disclosure form - what did you do beforehand; constrain and encourage; put
>> everything in a github repo; any restrictions on IoT devices? eg
>> propreitary devices; focus on development effort; recommended devices/ not
>> recommended devices; open source devices recommended
>> >
>> > 4. Technology constraints and options:
>> >
>> > --> Request for suggestions on which companies are likely to want to
>> participate
>> > --> Datasets are a good way to frame a hack event.  Such as Open Data
>> Taiwan
>> > --> Potential shopper datasets being made available?
>> > --> All technology teams will need to use OpenStack as the platform for
>> their application.
>> >
>> > 5.) Vendors for iBeacon/4G technology?
>> >
>> > --> mediatek
>> > --> advantek
>> > --> foxconn
>> > --> Intel
>> >
>> > 4. Judges, Mentorship & Volunteer Organisation
>> > --> request for more ideas on what the problem scope should be for the
>> different hack teams.
>> > --> need to write up engaging set of problems (hack challenges +
>> mentors) so participants are inspired to engage as team.
>> > --> request for mentors who have used the technology beforehand and
>> have an idea for what kind of problem they want to solve
>> > --> Two rounds of judging - first make a shortlist, then have full
>> panel of judging for the final awards.
>> > --> university and industry experts act as mentors.
>> > --> mentors lead teams
>> > --> prizes are a motivating factor to just sign up, they don't end up
>> being the thing people remember as valuable from the event.
>> > --> most valuable prize would be getting to go to OpenStack summit as a
>> team?
>> > --> use cases for engaging the wider public (marketting): help promote
>> international shopping, ease of shopping experience, etc.
>> > --> need mentors who are inspired by how shopping could be better.
>> >
>> >
>> > 5. Cloud - Key outcomes
>> > --> key learning outcome is to understand the cloud and it potential
>> for building new scalable apps that will work with larger audiences
>> > --> What will students want to achieve as part of this hackathon, what
>> value do they get after working all weekend long?
>> > --> What can we do in advance to prepare participants?
>> > --> hackathon main aim shouldn't be a competition, it should be an
>> experience.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:55 PM, David F Flanders <
>> flanders at openstack.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> About to start the hangout meeting (in five minutes).
>> >> Please, we invite you to join the meeting here:
>> https://plus.google.com/events/cko4nle4teloim9k05smfu4ml6o
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The Hangout group for this meeting.
>> >>> Link: https://plus.google.com/events/cko4nle4teloim9k05smfu4ml6o
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 11, 2016 7:37 PM, "Michael Jenkins" <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you Andre for the support of QCT and we look forward to
>> including Danny, Lynette, and Jack to the growing team.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Michael
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 18:38 , Andre Hu (胡明德) <Andre.hu at qct.io> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello Rico,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for meeting info.
>> >>>
>> >>> QCT will have following persons to attend the meeting tomorrow.
>> Please excuse me not to be able to attend tomorrow meeting due to prior
>> meeting commitment.
>> >>>
>> >>> Senior marketing director: Danny
>> >>> Marketing deputy mgr: Lynette
>> >>> Quanta Data Center mgr: Jack Ong
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Andre Hu
>> >>> QCT
>> >>> +886 963 919 108
>> >>> www.qct.io
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Rico Lin [mailto:rico.l at inwinstack.com]
>> >>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 5:22 PM
>> >>> To: David F Flanders
>> >>> Cc: Vincent S. Tseng; 楊傑文; Michael Jenkins; AvengerMoJo Alex;
>> ychung at cs.nthu.edu.tw; hungsh at csie.ntu.edu.tw; Minolu .C; 王惠民; Andre Hu
>> (胡明德); Jerry Chou; openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org;
>> yehching.chung at gmail.com; Fred Chien
>> >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-tw] App Hackathon update meeting
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Meeting Time: Tuesday, 2016/1/12
>> >>> Meeting host: Michael
>> >>> Meeting will be at room 447 in EECS building, National Tsing Hua
>> University.
>> >>>
>> >>> One more minor agenda item:
>> >>>
>> >>> 8. Active Open App Developer Communities in Taiwan who might want to
>> collaborate?
>> >>>
>> >>> A quick look at the Meetup.com <http://meetup.com/> for Taiwan shows
>> the following as potential communities we could invite?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Taipai Python User Group
>> >>> Taipai R User Group
>> >>> ElasticGroup Taipai
>> >>> Taiwan Java User Group
>> >>> Rails Taiwan
>> >>> Startup Taiwan
>> >>> etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best, Flanders
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Michael Jenkins <
>> md.jenkins at icloud.com> wrote:
>> >>> Thank you Tom for your thoughts. I spoke with Rico about the agenda
>> and feel that the meeting should only last 1.5 hrs. Originally I was
>> pressed for time but have been able to adjust my schedule to allow ample
>> time at NTHU, so I will not be rushed to return to Taipei for my next
>> meeting.
>> >>>
>> >>> Let’s try to keep the meeting to 1.5 hrs and ready to update on
>> progress for the following:
>> >>> 1. Site selection
>> >>> 2. Development objective and event theme
>> >>> 3. Mentor and volunteer organization
>> >>> 4. Event support staff organization
>> >>> 5. Judges and registration
>> >>> 6. Schedule tracking and progress
>> >>> 7. Any other items
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Michael
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 12:55 , Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> Just to clarify the agenda. So far I didn't see a topic proposed from
>> NTHU?
>> >>>
>> >>> ·         Confirming Location
>> >>> o    We will have a site survey on Monday, so we should be able to
>> select site by Wednesday.
>> >>> ·         Organizing Volunteer group
>> >>> o    We have some great volunteers list in etherpad. We also have
>> some others sponsors and professors. According to schedule, sponsorship
>> searching should be closed at the end of January (IIRC). Since we probably
>> will start some detail working, it will be great if we can conform the
>> commits from each other, so works can be dispatched.
>> >>> ·         tech topic
>> >>> ·         Opening registry?
>> >>> ·         Any topic, please reply and add on mailing list.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, 2 hours seems like a long time for an update meeting. Last time
>> one hour was sufficient. Michael, as the meeting chair, what do you think?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> As always, we should post any updates on the mailing list to allow
>> people to read before the meeting. This way we can keep the meeting short
>> and to the point.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Tom
>> >>>
>> >>> On 10/01/16 20:31, Rico Lin wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks Micheal, but this is mostly professor Chung's arrangement.
>> >>> Meeting will be at room 447 in EECS building, National Tsing Hua
>> University.
>> >>>
>> >>> Professor Chung and a lot of professors will join this meeting there.
>> It will be nice if Michael and others can join this meeting there.
>> >>> The room can contains 40+ people. This meeting also will be a hangout
>> meeting for others who really can't join this meeting in NTHU.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 10, 2016 2:13 PM, "Michael Jenkins" <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>> Hi Rico, thank you for coordinating this important meeting. I’ll need
>> to adjust my schedule for Tuesday and will be able to attend the meeting at
>> 10am.
>> >>>
>> >>> Could you please let me know the exact meeting location?
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Michael
>> >>>
>> >>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:15 , Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear all
>> >>> Thanks very much for prof. Chung's arrangement. There will be a
>> meeting in NTHU at 10am on Tuesday.
>> >>>
>> >>> Apologies for any  inconvenient, but we should change the meeting
>> time to Tuesday with Prof. Chung's meeting and merge all topics together.
>> >>>
>> >>> Michael, are you available that time?
>> >>>
>> >>> Propose to have a meeting next Wednesday morning 10-12 am. This
>> meeting should hosted by Micheal, our project manager for this event who
>> get to control topics and schedule during meeting.
>> >>>
>> >>> How we host this meeting: a hangout meeting will be nice.
>> >>>
>> >>> In the meeting, we can have chance to decide fallowing things:
>> >>> ·         Confirming Location
>> >>> o    We will have a side survey on Monday, so we should be able to
>> select site by Wednesday.
>> >>> ·         Organizing Volunteer group
>> >>> o    We have some great volunteers list in etherpad. We also have
>> some others sponsors and professors. According to schedule, sponsorship
>> searching should be closed at the end of January (IIRC). Since we probably
>> will start some detail working, it will be great if we can conform the
>> commits from each other, so works can be dispatched.
>> >>> ·         tech topic
>> >>> ·         Opening registry?
>> >>> ·         Any topic, please reply and add on mailing list.
>> >>> Thanks for the hard works by Prof. Chung and other Professors, we now
>> have big supports from academic including fallowing university:
>> >>> ·         National Taiwan University,
>> >>> ·         National Tsing Hua University,
>> >>> ·         National Chiao Tung University
>> >>> We should have a good chance to get around all guys and have a good
>> chance to share with each other and work on above items.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also would like to invite everyone subscribe on this mailing group
>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw so we
>> can have everyone to joining all discussion for event.
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>> Jerry Chou
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>> Computer Science Department
>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
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