[openstack-tw] App Hackathon update meeting
Rico Lin
rico.l at inwinstack.com
Fri Jan 15 05:14:52 UTC 2016
I trying to figure out what kind of doc/mentor/video/sessions we needed if
we want to prepare for it.
In that way maybe we can get more clear version of what and which part can
grep more help from community(even contribute) without duplicate any effort.
Kindly share your idea on it :)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/101SnWy-fbbmz0Xl5bQJn5bGSH_PC14_asnZ6EsRxNgk/edit?usp=sharing
2016-01-15 13:02 GMT+08:00 David F Flanders <flanders at openstack.org>:
> +1 re using the "building your first app on openstack" guide.
> The guide, is a great way to get teams working together before the
> hackathon.
>
> Afterall:
> You wouldn't run a marathon without training.
> And you shouldn't compete in a hackathon without training, either.
> 🏃💻 Train #FTW
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>> IMO, I think we should use *Building Your First App on OpenStack*
>> <http://developer.openstack.org/firstapp-libcloud/getting_started.html> guide
>> and see what we can help to improve it during this event, because that
>> guide is used by the entire global community.
>>
>> We have some students who planing Hackathon in Jan. (23-25) with
>> expecting 130 people to attended. And they willing to give session about
>> OpenStack and maybe even consider use OpenStack as one of topic.
>>
>> Dear Jerry
>>
>> Can we provide SSCloud for them as a platform during hackathon if it's
>> available during that period? I think it's a good chance to figure out
>> together what should be consider for prepare a OpenStack platform for
>> event, as a pre-test for OpenStack during hackathon.
>>
>> 2016-01-15 11:59 GMT+08:00 Michael Jenkins <md.jenkins at icloud.com>:
>>
>>> Thanks Jerry,
>>>
>>> One possible way to proceed would be to consider adopting the *Building
>>> Your First App on OpenStack*
>>> <http://developer.openstack.org/firstapp-libcloud/getting_started.html> guide
>>> to assess and educate. David has suggested it might be possible to run a
>>> workshop during the week leading up to the hackathon and using the guide.
>>>
>>> What do you think about this approach?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Video:
>>> https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/build-and-operate-your-first-openstack-application
>>>
>>> On 14 Jan 2016, at 01:12 , Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> Yes, it is certainly possible to use it for pre-screen.
>>> Once you have more details about the competency test, we can try to
>>> work it out for the best we can.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:26 PM, Michael Jenkins <md.jenkins at icloud.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jerry,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the generous offer to use SSCloud for training and
>>>> testing. I’m sure we can benefit from the early use of your platform. I’m
>>>> curious — would there be a way we could use your system to help pre-screen
>>>> participants (i.e. create a participant competency test) to help evaluate
>>>> knowledge/experience levels?
>>>>
>>>> I’m in support of your suggestion about having the chairs create a
>>>> judging criteria. I believe that David Flanders has also started compiling
>>>> some thoughts along this same line; and would like to coordinate amongst
>>>> the four of you along with ITRI/IDOT/MOEA and QCT.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On 12 Jan 2016, at 21:09 , Jerry Chou <jchou at cs.nthu.edu.tw> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> As mentioned in the meetup today, NTHU is hosting a openstack
>>>> platform called SSCloud (https://www.unicloud.org.tw/services/sscloud).
>>>> We are glad to offer it as a training and testing platform.
>>>> You may find the user manual and hardware spec on the webpage.
>>>> If you need any further information, please feel free to contact me
>>>> or our technical supporting staff "Chen-Hao Ku" (
>>>> jhku at sslab.cs.nthu.edu.tw)
>>>>
>>>> For judging, I also suggest to let the chairs of three tracks to
>>>> gather a list of judging criteria in their own area as a guideline for the
>>>> competition, while the topic, data, tools and devices can keep open to
>>>> inspire more creativity.
>>>> For instance, from the point of "system", we would like to see the
>>>> application is built on top of a backend solution with HA, load balance and
>>>> elasticity.
>>>> If we have a agreement on this idea, I can give you my concrete list
>>>> by the weekend.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:37 PM, David F Flanders <
>>>> flanders at openstack.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > In addition to the video are the notes from the meeting below.
>>>> > Please feel invited to reply with questions/suggestions using inline
>>>> reply:
>>>> >
>>>> > Attendees: Michael, Rico, Tom, Anita, Danny, Jack, Allen, Dr Chung,
>>>> Christopher, Dr Lai, Flanders (video conf)
>>>> >
>>>> > 1. Update by Project Manager (Michael)
>>>> > --> Welcome the large group on experts
>>>> > --> introduced the hackathon and current status to the group
>>>> > --> Idea began back in October to help increase awareness of building
>>>> applications (mobile, web, etc.)
>>>> > --> This will be the first application hackathon (alpha) which
>>>> OpenStack will run.
>>>> > --> Many events around the world will be run by OpenStack community
>>>> based on this first event.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2. Site Selection
>>>> > --> Michael introduced the two different sites
>>>> > --> Dates of event and numbers of people will be decided once a venue
>>>> is selected.
>>>> > --> Potential use of Airforce Base or Hack space in Taipai
>>>> > --> Hoping to have a venue selected by end of the week
>>>> > --> Hoping to have Hackathon mid March
>>>> >
>>>> > 3. Development Objective & Event Theme
>>>> > --> Michael introduced the Smart Commerce development objectives
>>>> > --> Application developer problem scope: smart commerce apps
>>>> > --> potential to use iBeacon and 4G/LTE technologies for tracking
>>>> shoppers.
>>>> > --> we will have a call for volunteers to support the event and
>>>> technology hardware
>>>> > --> request for judging panel and team leads (mentors)
>>>> > --> rough estimate: 40-50 teams of teams 3-6 people. Judging in
>>>> parallel, like american idol?
>>>> > --> Hoping that University Profs and/or Students able to be judges
>>>> and/or mentors
>>>> > --> Encourage professors to invite their students to participate.
>>>> > --> Encouraging industry to send their best developers to lead
>>>> (mentor) teams
>>>> > --> How can participants utiilse the 4G/LTE+iBeacon technology on
>>>> site at the hackathon?
>>>> > --> Looking for partners to connect the devices to OpenStack directly.
>>>> >
>>>> > Discussion:
>>>> > --> Professor Zhen: good topic, current trend, MOEA, data analytics -
>>>> availability of suitable data is very crucial,
>>>> > --> Youbike data - from yuan hua
>>>> > --> open test space
>>>> > --> would advise to have pre-built images
>>>> > --> basic tools - only fundamentals - save some time, but leave room
>>>> to develop advanced things
>>>> > --> originality constraint in the judging
>>>> > --> only provide dataset, etc
>>>> > --> Judging criteria discussion: emphasize the goal - creativity,
>>>> scalability etc; publish rules online - eg what can you do beforehand;
>>>> disclosure form - what did you do beforehand; constrain and encourage; put
>>>> everything in a github repo; any restrictions on IoT devices? eg
>>>> propreitary devices; focus on development effort; recommended devices/ not
>>>> recommended devices; open source devices recommended
>>>> >
>>>> > 4. Technology constraints and options:
>>>> >
>>>> > --> Request for suggestions on which companies are likely to want to
>>>> participate
>>>> > --> Datasets are a good way to frame a hack event. Such as Open Data
>>>> Taiwan
>>>> > --> Potential shopper datasets being made available?
>>>> > --> All technology teams will need to use OpenStack as the platform
>>>> for their application.
>>>> >
>>>> > 5.) Vendors for iBeacon/4G technology?
>>>> >
>>>> > --> mediatek
>>>> > --> advantek
>>>> > --> foxconn
>>>> > --> Intel
>>>> >
>>>> > 4. Judges, Mentorship & Volunteer Organisation
>>>> > --> request for more ideas on what the problem scope should be for
>>>> the different hack teams.
>>>> > --> need to write up engaging set of problems (hack challenges +
>>>> mentors) so participants are inspired to engage as team.
>>>> > --> request for mentors who have used the technology beforehand and
>>>> have an idea for what kind of problem they want to solve
>>>> > --> Two rounds of judging - first make a shortlist, then have full
>>>> panel of judging for the final awards.
>>>> > --> university and industry experts act as mentors.
>>>> > --> mentors lead teams
>>>> > --> prizes are a motivating factor to just sign up, they don't end up
>>>> being the thing people remember as valuable from the event.
>>>> > --> most valuable prize would be getting to go to OpenStack summit as
>>>> a team?
>>>> > --> use cases for engaging the wider public (marketting): help
>>>> promote international shopping, ease of shopping experience, etc.
>>>> > --> need mentors who are inspired by how shopping could be better.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 5. Cloud - Key outcomes
>>>> > --> key learning outcome is to understand the cloud and it potential
>>>> for building new scalable apps that will work with larger audiences
>>>> > --> What will students want to achieve as part of this hackathon,
>>>> what value do they get after working all weekend long?
>>>> > --> What can we do in advance to prepare participants?
>>>> > --> hackathon main aim shouldn't be a competition, it should be an
>>>> experience.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:55 PM, David F Flanders <
>>>> flanders at openstack.org> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> About to start the hangout meeting (in five minutes).
>>>> >> Please, we invite you to join the meeting here:
>>>> https://plus.google.com/events/cko4nle4teloim9k05smfu4ml6o
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The Hangout group for this meeting.
>>>> >>> Link: https://plus.google.com/events/cko4nle4teloim9k05smfu4ml6o
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Jan 11, 2016 7:37 PM, "Michael Jenkins" <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thank you Andre for the support of QCT and we look forward to
>>>> including Danny, Lynette, and Jack to the growing team.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>> >>> Michael
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 18:38 , Andre Hu (胡明德) <Andre.hu at qct.io> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hello Rico,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks for meeting info.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> QCT will have following persons to attend the meeting tomorrow.
>>>> Please excuse me not to be able to attend tomorrow meeting due to prior
>>>> meeting commitment.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Senior marketing director: Danny
>>>> >>> Marketing deputy mgr: Lynette
>>>> >>> Quanta Data Center mgr: Jack Ong
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>> >>> Andre Hu
>>>> >>> QCT
>>>> >>> +886 963 919 108
>>>> >>> www.qct.io
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> From: Rico Lin [mailto:rico.l at inwinstack.com]
>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 5:22 PM
>>>> >>> To: David F Flanders
>>>> >>> Cc: Vincent S. Tseng; 楊傑文; Michael Jenkins; AvengerMoJo Alex;
>>>> ychung at cs.nthu.edu.tw; hungsh at csie.ntu.edu.tw; Minolu .C; 王惠民; Andre
>>>> Hu (胡明德); Jerry Chou; openstack-tw at lists.openstack.org;
>>>> yehching.chung at gmail.com; Fred Chien
>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-tw] App Hackathon update meeting
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Meeting Time: Tuesday, 2016/1/12
>>>> >>> Meeting host: Michael
>>>> >>> Meeting will be at room 447 in EECS building, National Tsing Hua
>>>> University.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> One more minor agenda item:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 8. Active Open App Developer Communities in Taiwan who might want
>>>> to collaborate?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> A quick look at the Meetup.com <http://meetup.com/> for Taiwan
>>>> shows the following as potential communities we could invite?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Taipai Python User Group
>>>> >>> Taipai R User Group
>>>> >>> ElasticGroup Taipai
>>>> >>> Taiwan Java User Group
>>>> >>> Rails Taiwan
>>>> >>> Startup Taiwan
>>>> >>> etc.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best, Flanders
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Michael Jenkins <
>>>> md.jenkins at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> Thank you Tom for your thoughts. I spoke with Rico about the agenda
>>>> and feel that the meeting should only last 1.5 hrs. Originally I was
>>>> pressed for time but have been able to adjust my schedule to allow ample
>>>> time at NTHU, so I will not be rushed to return to Taipei for my next
>>>> meeting.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Let’s try to keep the meeting to 1.5 hrs and ready to update on
>>>> progress for the following:
>>>> >>> 1. Site selection
>>>> >>> 2. Development objective and event theme
>>>> >>> 3. Mentor and volunteer organization
>>>> >>> 4. Event support staff organization
>>>> >>> 5. Judges and registration
>>>> >>> 6. Schedule tracking and progress
>>>> >>> 7. Any other items
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>> >>> Michael
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 12:55 , Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Hi all,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Just to clarify the agenda. So far I didn't see a topic proposed
>>>> from NTHU?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> · Confirming Location
>>>> >>> o We will have a site survey on Monday, so we should be able to
>>>> select site by Wednesday.
>>>> >>> · Organizing Volunteer group
>>>> >>> o We have some great volunteers list in etherpad. We also have
>>>> some others sponsors and professors. According to schedule, sponsorship
>>>> searching should be closed at the end of January (IIRC). Since we probably
>>>> will start some detail working, it will be great if we can conform the
>>>> commits from each other, so works can be dispatched.
>>>> >>> · tech topic
>>>> >>> · Opening registry?
>>>> >>> · Any topic, please reply and add on mailing list.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Also, 2 hours seems like a long time for an update meeting. Last
>>>> time one hour was sufficient. Michael, as the meeting chair, what do you
>>>> think?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> As always, we should post any updates on the mailing list to allow
>>>> people to read before the meeting. This way we can keep the meeting short
>>>> and to the point.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Regards,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Tom
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 10/01/16 20:31, Rico Lin wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks Micheal, but this is mostly professor Chung's arrangement.
>>>> >>> Meeting will be at room 447 in EECS building, National Tsing Hua
>>>> University.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Professor Chung and a lot of professors will join this meeting
>>>> there. It will be nice if Michael and others can join this meeting there.
>>>> >>> The room can contains 40+ people. This meeting also will be a
>>>> hangout meeting for others who really can't join this meeting in NTHU.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Jan 10, 2016 2:13 PM, "Michael Jenkins" <md.jenkins at icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>> Hi Rico, thank you for coordinating this important meeting. I’ll
>>>> need to adjust my schedule for Tuesday and will be able to attend the
>>>> meeting at 10am.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Could you please let me know the exact meeting location?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>> >>> Michael
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 9 Jan 2016, at 11:15 , Rico Lin <rico.l at inwinstack.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Dear all
>>>> >>> Thanks very much for prof. Chung's arrangement. There will be a
>>>> meeting in NTHU at 10am on Tuesday.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Apologies for any inconvenient, but we should change the meeting
>>>> time to Tuesday with Prof. Chung's meeting and merge all topics together.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Michael, are you available that time?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Propose to have a meeting next Wednesday morning 10-12 am. This
>>>> meeting should hosted by Micheal, our project manager for this event who
>>>> get to control topics and schedule during meeting.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> How we host this meeting: a hangout meeting will be nice.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In the meeting, we can have chance to decide fallowing things:
>>>> >>> · Confirming Location
>>>> >>> o We will have a side survey on Monday, so we should be able to
>>>> select site by Wednesday.
>>>> >>> · Organizing Volunteer group
>>>> >>> o We have some great volunteers list in etherpad. We also have
>>>> some others sponsors and professors. According to schedule, sponsorship
>>>> searching should be closed at the end of January (IIRC). Since we probably
>>>> will start some detail working, it will be great if we can conform the
>>>> commits from each other, so works can be dispatched.
>>>> >>> · tech topic
>>>> >>> · Opening registry?
>>>> >>> · Any topic, please reply and add on mailing list.
>>>> >>> Thanks for the hard works by Prof. Chung and other Professors, we
>>>> now have big supports from academic including fallowing university:
>>>> >>> · National Taiwan University,
>>>> >>> · National Tsing Hua University,
>>>> >>> · National Chiao Tung University
>>>> >>> We should have a good chance to get around all guys and have a good
>>>> chance to share with each other and work on above items.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Also would like to invite everyone subscribe on this mailing group
>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-tw so we
>>>> can have everyone to joining all discussion for event.
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jerry Chou
>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>> Computer Science Department
>>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Chou
>>> Assistant Professor
>>> Computer Science Department
>>> National Tsing Hua University, Hsinchu Taiwan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>
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