<div dir="ltr">Taking the obvious/outliers out of the convo, given the issues we have (as I expressed in an earlier email) a suboptimal and highly subjective process, it's really a crap-shot whether a talk will be a vendorfest or not based on two paragraphs and 4 bullet points. <div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Ruben</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Mark Collier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@openstack.org" target="_blank">mark@openstack.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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February 13, 2017 11:44:40 AM "Ferry, Courtney (Contractor)"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Agreed on sales pitches passed
off as presentations being a bad thing – I’ve walked out on a
few.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I
have attended presentations from vendors that were good, however, when the
sales pitch was kept to the last 5 minutes of the talk. The ones that
worked for me were given by vendors that
provided a supported version of an OpenStack project and gave a talk or
lab on that project. If they keep the bulk of the presentation to the
open source technology, then give their product a plug at the end, I think
it’s cool.
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</span></b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Mark Collier
<<a href="mailto:mark@openstack.org" target="_blank">mark@openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, February 13, 2017 at 12:25 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Ruben D. Orduz" <<a href="mailto:rubenoz@gmail.com" target="_blank">rubenoz@gmail.com</a>>,
"SaintRossy, James" <<a href="mailto:James_SaintRossy@cable.comcast.com" target="_blank">James_SaintRossy@cable.<wbr>comcast.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-track-chairs@lists.<wbr>openstack.org</a>"
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Guidance on Vendor Specific
Presentations?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="color:black">I'm my opinion, straight up sales pitches are
bad. <u></u>
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<span style="color:black">That said, if a particular technology is widely
adopted as part of Openstack clouds out in the world (like a plug in), I
could see how an expert on the technology could provide value for attendees
by talking about it at the summit,
even if that technology is closed source. People who'd never consider a
closed source plug in would simply not attend that session.
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<span style="color:black">So I guess I'd say it's not black and white, more
about whether there's a significant audience for the topic and if the
speaker has the expertise to convey it.
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">On February
13, 2017 10:48:21 AM "Ruben D. Orduz" <<a href="mailto:rubenoz@gmail.com" target="_blank">rubenoz@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Yes, it absolutely should have bearing. I vaguely
remember in the initial guidance email it specifies that we should not
select proposals that are perceived as sales pitches or vendor specific.
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Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:29 AM, SaintRossy, James <<a href="mailto:James_SaintRossy@comcast.com" target="_blank">James_SaintRossy@comcast.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">I’m a 1st time
track chair so pardon my ignorance if this question seems obvious. In
my initial review for the storage track I see several presentations
that are vendor specific and possibly closed source. Should that
have any bearing on our evaluations?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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