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</head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Wow! Great to see so much
lively conversation around the Track Chair tool and process. There are
some really good ideas here. We will take some time to review with our
development team and update this list with a final summary of requests.
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One thing we try to do is strive towards a better tool that can meet
your needs, rather than forcing you to export everything to a
spreadsheet. We get a little closer each round, but recognize there is
always room for improved efficiencies. While we can't get every feature
in, we do our best to make your lives as easy as possible.<br>
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If it would be helpful for Track Chairs to meet in Barcelona, please let
me know and a few of us from the Foundation Staff will try to make it.
Generally, I think the email list has been pretty effective in
communicating with one another, but we're happy to meet if it would
help.<br>
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Also want to say thanks for the kind words on the current tool. The
praise really goes to Aaron Carlino (@unclecheese), who did the heavy
dev work on the Track Chair development. Thanks, Aaron! <br>
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Cheers,<br>
Summit Speaker Team<br>
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Matt!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Matt
Fischer [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:matt@mattfischer.com">mailto:matt@mattfischer.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 25,
2016 4:28 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Nick Chase
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nchase@mirantis.com"><nchase@mirantis.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org">openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Openstack-track-chairs] Track Chair Feedback<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt">I hope that the track chairs were not only
selected on the basis of technical knowledge but on their integrity and
of putting the summit & community ahead of company goals.
I also think that the foundation has done a good job ensuring that
different communities and companies are chosen, which hopefully avoids
the ability of one company to push their talks over others. For me, I
will never push a team talk unless the other track
chairs have it under consideration, and if they do I'm happy to provide
honest feedback on it. I hope fellow track chairs will concur with
that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt">Opening up a requirement that track chairs have
to justify why they chose one talk over another will only foster
further argument, it won't resolve anything. It's also
untenable when rejecting 200 talks to justify the ranking of each one.
And regardless of what you do and whether you justify your reasons or
not, many good talks were not picked, and some feelings were probably
hurt.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt">On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Nick Chase
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" target="_blank"
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<div>_______________________________________________<br>Openstack-track-chairs
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style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">August
25, 2016 at 3:28 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#888888;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr">I hope that the
track chairs were not only selected on the basis of technical knowledge
but on their integrity and of putting the summit & community ahead
of company goals. I also think that the foundation has done a good job
ensuring that different communities and companies are chosen, which
hopefully avoids the ability of one company to push their talks over
others. For me, I will never push a team talk unless the other track
chairs have it under consideration, and if they do I'm happy to provide
honest feedback on it. I hope fellow track chairs will concur with that.<div><div><br></div><div>Opening
up a requirement that track chairs have to justify why they chose one
talk over another will only foster further argument, it won't resolve
anything. It's also untenable when rejecting 200 talks to justify the
ranking of each one. And regardless of what you do and whether you
justify your reasons or not, many good talks were not picked, and some
feelings were probably hurt.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br></div></div></div></div>
<div>_______________________________________________<br>Openstack-track-chairs
mailing list<br><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org">Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a><br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-chairs">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-chairs</a><br></div></div>
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right;"> <font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">August
25, 2016 at 3:13 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
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<p>Well, when we were working on our track (both this time and for
Austin) what we did was break it down into sections (for example,
we might have 3 talks on "DevOps") and then try to choose a talk
from each section. In some cases, we had to choose between
similar talks, and discuss what our rationale was; it wouldn't be
a bad thing to provide a place for track chairs to explain their
choices. It would even provide a way for submitters to improve
their submissions for next time.</p>
<p>---- Nick<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/25/2016 3:50 PM, Shilla Saebi
wrote:<br>
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right;"> <font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">August
25, 2016 at 2:50 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#888888;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr">I think we
should come up with a way for track chairs who have to make selections
on talks that were submitted by members of their own company or team to
be fair. I noticed a few talks go through where the track chairs worked
for the same company as the talks that were selected, and other talks
with more complete abstracts (in my opinion) and a more diverse set of
speakers, was not selected. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br></div>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ziemann@us.ibm.com"
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style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">August
25, 2016 at 1:18 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
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charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="content-type"><div>+1 on export. </div><div
id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">We
wrapped up our final selections using a spreadsheet which makes it easy
to evaluate multiple criteria and chair votes/comments in one view. <br><br>Nate
Ziemann<div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26,
0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227,
0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180,
0.230469); " class="Apple-style-span">Sent from my iPhone</span></div></div><div><br>On
Aug 25, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Nick Chase <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nchase@mirantis.com">nchase@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><br>
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