<div dir="ltr">Thanks Jimmy!<div><br></div><div>Also, I'd like to confirm I've seen confusion about this already with folks soliciting support on mailing lists using direct links but providing no other details.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd also like to point out that it's pretty straightforward for folks to search for talks, so perhaps a more effective control would be to exclude (or better yet provide customisable filtering via the track-chairs tool) votes from people who only vote on n or less talks where initially n=1 (i.e. don't count "drive bys"). Perhaps this was already suggested/discussed elsewhere though?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 July 2016 at 13:54, Jimmy Mcarthur <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jimmy@tipit.net" target="_blank">jimmy@tipit.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<span>Blair Bethwaite wrote:</span><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Erin, Hi Florian,<div><br></div><div>The first thing
I noticed was the reference to Tokyo:</div><div>"OpenStack community
members are voting on presentations to be presented at the OpenStack
Summit in Tokyo, Japan..."</div></div>
</blockquote></span>
Apologies. Thought we had fixed this early in the day, but it was in two
places. Now pushed and working:
<a href="https://direct.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/vote-for-speakers/" target="_blank">https://direct.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/vote-for-speakers/</a><div><div class="h5"><br>
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<div dir="ltr"><div>:-)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 July 2016
at 07:32, Erin Disney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:erin@openstack.org" target="_blank">erin@openstack.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hey Florian- <div><br></div><div>We
appreciate the feedback, totally open to updating site with more context
on intention surrounding the voting change. </div><div><br></div><div>Below
please find proposed new copy for the Selection Process information
page you referenced in your email. Know there was an extensive back and
forth over the mailing lists back in May, but the unique URLs was the
only real change to the process this round. Let me know if you have
additional information you think we should include here. </div><div> </div><em style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;text-align:center"><span style="font-size:12px">Please note: For the first time, unique URLs to
submissions have been removed for this Summit.</span></em><br><font color="#333333" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><i><br></i></font><div><div><em style="text-align:center"><font color="#333333" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">This is in response to Community and Track Chair feedback.
The hope is that by removing dedicated URLs we are </font></em><em style="text-align:center"><font color="#333333" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">promoting fairness across all submissions by preventing</font></em><em style="text-align:center"><font color="#333333" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"> ballot stuffing and social media spam, evening the </font></em><em style="text-align:center"><font color="#333333" face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">playing field for people new to the community or from
smaller companies. </font></em></div></div><div> <br><div>Let me know,
thanks again! </div><div><br></div><div>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;word-wrap:break-word">Erin
Disney<br>OpenStack Marketing<br><a href="mailto:erin@openstack.org" target="_blank">erin@openstack.org</a></div></div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>On Jul 26,
2016, at 2:54 PM, Florian Haas <<a href="mailto:florian@hastexo.com" target="_blank">florian@hastexo.com</a>>
wrote:</div><br></div></div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Obligatory
apology for using HTML, in order to faithfully reproduce the email
blast message.</div><div><br></div>I wonder how others feel about this.
We had a lengthy discussion about tweaks and optimizations to the voting
process on this list a while ago, but the "voting now open" email that
just went out (see below) has no mention of any change to the voting
mechanics (i.e. *how* voting works, as opposed to *why* we do it).<div><br></div><div>Neither
does <a href="https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/call-for-presentations/selection-process" target="_blank">https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/call-for-presentations/selection-process</a>,
which the email refers to (it only talks about news to the submission
process, not to the voting).</div><div><br></div><div>I guess it's
probably to late to stop the email blast. But I wonder if others agree
that it's probably a good idea to amend the selection process info page?</div><div><br></div><div>Case
in point:</div><div><a href="https://twitter.com/0x44/status/757990623668375552" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/0x44/status/757990623668375552</a>
(would be great to explain the intention, which was one of the things we
did discuss here)<br></div><div><br></div><div>What do others think?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Florian</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">OpenStack Summit Team</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:summit@openstack.org" target="_blank">summit@openstack.org</a>></span><br>Date: Tue, Jul
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