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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Consolas"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">Which is all well and good but … the bigger issue(s) remain.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Consolas"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">(a)</span></span></font><![endif]><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Consolas"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">When
someone -1’s something should there be a comment; much as we do in code reviews?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-1’s persist when a talk changes tracks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Consolas"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">-amrith<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Edgar
Magaña Perdomo [mailto:emagana@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 22, 2016 12:13 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Affan Ahmed Syed <asyed@plumgrid.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] reset statistics when a talk is moved<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">IMHO, we should not be voting yet. We should just recommend new tracks for sessions that we believe they will fit better. After the public voting we can properly start
our own rating.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Affan Ahmed Syed <<a href="mailto:asyed@plumgrid.com" target="_blank">asyed@plumgrid.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I also think that keeping metadata of track from which a talk has moved is also useful information for the new track chair (in case they disagree with the new location).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Jul 22, 2016 8:23 PM, "Kyle Mestery" <<a href="mailto:mestery@mestery.com" target="_blank">mestery@mestery.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think the missing piece is that when voting -1, a comment on *why*<br>
you voted -1 would be good. And carrying those votes to another track<br>
makes sense to me. There's no reason the chairs in the new track need<br>
to take the previous votes into consideration, but removing them<br>
doesn't make sense either.<br>
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Amrith Kumar <<a href="mailto:amrith@tesora.com" target="_blank">amrith@tesora.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Kyle, if you look at the talk in question, there's no reason (that I can see) for the -1.<br>
><br>
> Can you?<br>
><br>
> So I have no idea where that person rated it -1. Was it because he felt it was a product pitch, or because he (or she) felt it lacked content? Was it because it was inappropriate in the track where he (or she) rated it?<br>
><br>
> Or am I supposed to email that reviewer and ask? Or should we mandate that -1's should have reasons?<br>
><br>
> All options, not sure what the right one is.<br>
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> -amrith<br>
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>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:<a href="mailto:mestery@mestery.com" target="_blank">mestery@mestery.com</a>]<br>
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:10 AM<br>
>> To: Amrith Kumar <<a href="mailto:amrith@tesora.com" target="_blank">amrith@tesora.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">
openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] reset statistics when a talk is<br>
>> moved<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Amrith Kumar <<a href="mailto:amrith@tesora.com" target="_blank">amrith@tesora.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > When a talk is moved from one track to another, I believe that it would<br>
>> be a good thing if the ratings on the talk are reset.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Consider this talk as an example:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="https://www.openstack.org/track-chairs/browse/14981?category=73" target="_blank">
https://www.openstack.org/track-chairs/browse/14981?category=73</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > It was given a -1 by someone (I won't mention names because this is<br>
>> going to the ML).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Also the talk was moved on the request of a reviewer into another track<br>
>> (hi reviewer, long time no talk).<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Now, as I see the talk, it still retains the -1 which is likely no<br>
>> longer relevant or appropriate.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Yet the -1 is used in computing the talks 'score'.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks,<br>
>> ><br>
>> I actually disagree and think the -1 still holds value, same as a +1<br>
>> would hold value. I'm not sure why you think a track chair's vote<br>
>> (even if not in the same track) isn't worth retaining post move to be<br>
>> honest.<br>
>><br>
>> > -amrith<br>
>> ><br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > Openstack-track-chairs mailing list<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">
Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
>> > <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-" target="_blank">
http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-</a><br>
>> chairs<br>
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