<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi all,<br><br></div>+1 to limiting the number of submissions per person<br></div>+1 to Stefano's proposal to have a feature in the track chair tool to get all the submission by the same speaker<br></div><div>+1 to have a random subset of presentations to vote on in the public voting <br></div><div><br></div>I like the idea of adding a field where the submitter can explain why his/her talk should be selected. I'd like to see facts listed in this field. This should be the place where the submitter can add info to prove that she/he has first hand knowledge regarding the topic. As Salvatore was already suggesting, I'd encourage people to share code repositories, papers and anything that can be useful to show their contribution.<br><br></div>I am OK with asking if the submitter has already presented somewhere else before. It can be anywhere else, university, local meetups... this shouldn't discourage new voices.<br></div>For frequent speakers we can use the data collected in Tokyo. Are they online somewhere?<br><br></div>cheers,<br><br></div>Rossella<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br><div><div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Henry Nash <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:henry.nash@uk.ibm.com" target="_blank">henry.nash@uk.ibm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font face="sans-serif" size="2">So a couple 0.01 old English pennies:</font><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">+1 for limiting submissions to 3</font><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">+1 for limiting number of speakers to
3, except for panels (which I agree are good...although I'd love to encourage
more question from the audience...rather than just moderator questions
passed around)</font><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">-1 for limiting submissions by company
(let's judge submissions on merit, not on source)</font><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">-1 for asking for video of previous
talks (I absolutely get the goal of trying to get good speakers....I'm
just concerned we raise the barrier too high for submission)</font><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">+1 for trying to get a better idea of
the content from the submission (Maybe don't ask for a longer abstract,
but have a section that asks for a simple bullet point list of the key
topics covered?)</font><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Henry</font><br><br><br><br><font face="sans-serif" size="1" color="#5f5f5f">From:
</font><font face="sans-serif" size="1">"Clark, Robert
Graham" <<a href="mailto:robert.clark@hpe.com" target="_blank">robert.clark@hpe.com</a>></font><br><font face="sans-serif" size="1" color="#5f5f5f">To:
</font><font face="sans-serif" size="1">John Dickinson <<a href="mailto:me@not.mn" target="_blank">me@not.mn</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a>></font><br><font face="sans-serif" size="1" color="#5f5f5f">Date:
</font><font face="sans-serif" size="1">10/12/2015 01:08</font><span class=""><br><font face="sans-serif" size="1" color="#5f5f5f">Subject:
</font><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Re: [Openstack-track-chairs]
Call for Speakers Feedback, Next Steps</font><br></span><hr noshade><div><div class="h5"><br><br><br><tt><font size="2">I agree with Duncan's proposed questions and the idea
of capping the number of submissions somewhere from 3-5 per person (per
company doesn't work imho).<br><br>The biggest problem I've found as a track chair is not really knowing what
a talk will focus on (or even what the content will be) from the abstract
that's presented to me - this problem is significantly compounded when
the talk gets many votes.<br><br>We certainly have to improve the quality of abstracts and we need a way
to reduce the noise level that the voters are faced with. I'm a track chair
and I could barely stand leafing through the many submissions on my chosen
area of specialization (security) I can't imagine being your average attendee
and really spending multiple hours voting on talks - that's just not realistic.<br><br>Cheers<br>-Rob<br><br>(Also +1 to an etherpad)<br><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: John Dickinson [</font></tt><a href="mailto:me@not.mn" target="_blank"><tt><font size="2">mailto:me@not.mn</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2">]<br>> Sent: 09 December 2015 22:34<br>> To: <a href="mailto:openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Call for Speakers Feedback,
Next Steps<br>> <br>> Is there a difference between "submitter" and "presenter"?
eg in the past one person may submit a lot of talks, all with different
presenters<br>> on them.<br>> <br>> I like changing the incentivization away from the spaghetti approach
(throw a bunch on the wall and see what sticks). Limiting submissions<br>> per person (and one person not being in more than a certain number
of talks) is a good start.<br>> <br>> <br>> Another idea (one I'm much less sure of) is having track chairs or
someone giving guidance for submissions. eg "In the storage track,
we'd<br>> like to hear talks that (1) technically explain parts of the code
or (2) describe a production deployment and how that contributed back<br>> upstream". I'm not entirely sure how that would end up resulting
in a different final talk selection, but I'd hope it might raise the quality
of<br>> submissions.<br>> <br>> --John<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On 9 Dec 2015, at 14:09, Kenneth Hui wrote:<br>> <br>> > I would second the limit on number of submissions per person.<br>> ><br>> > Also, we may want to consider having a submitter upload or link
to a video<br>> > of him or her presenting; this would help in assessing someone's
ability to<br>> > present to an audience.<br>> ><br>> > Thank you.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --<br>> > Kenneth Hui <<a href="mailto:ken@platform9.com" target="_blank">ken@platform9.com</a>> | Director of Technical
Marketing and<br>> > Partner Alliances<br>> > Platform9 <</font></tt><a href="http://platform9.com/" target="_blank"><tt><font size="2">http://platform9.com/</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2">>
- *"Private Clouds Made Easy"*<br>> > (c) <a href="tel:347.997.0935" value="+13479970935" target="_blank">347.997.0935</a> / (t) @hui_kenneth <</font></tt><a href="https://twitter.com/hui_kenneth" target="_blank"><tt><font size="2">https://twitter.com/hui_kenneth</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2">><br>> ><br>> > Blogs:<br>> ><br>> > *<a href="http://blog.platform9.com/" target="_blank">http://blog.platform9.com/</a><br>> > <</font></tt><a href="http://blog.platform9.com/" target="_blank"><tt><font size="2">http://blog.platform9.com/</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2">>**<a href="http://cloudarchitectmusings.com/" target="_blank">http://cloudarchitectmusings.com/</a><br>> > <</font></tt><a href="http://cloudarchitectmusings.com/" target="_blank"><tt><font size="2">http://cloudarchitectmusings.com/</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2">>*<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Lauren Sell <<a href="mailto:lauren@openstack.org" target="_blank">lauren@openstack.org</a>>
wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> Hello Tokyo Summit track chairs,<br>> >><br>> >> We’re moving quickly to open the call for speakers for the
Austin<br>> >> Summit next week and want to make sure we incorporate feedback
from prior<br>> >> discussions on this list. Unfortunately, we didn’t have
much turnout in<br>> >> Tokyo for the Summit tools & processes session, where
we were hoping to<br>> >> facilitate more discussion. We only had two people show up
(outside of<br>> >> Foundation staff), so we primarily discussed the mobile app
and reviewed<br>> >> the prototype.<br>> >><br>> >> Based on earlier feedback in this thread, there is a desire
to manage the<br>> >> growing number of submissions while increasing the quality.
We have two<br>> >> levers we could pull for the submission process, but need
to make decisions<br>> >> by the end of this week:<br>> >> 1. Do we want to cap the number of sessions that each person
can submit at<br>> >> 5?<br>> >> 2. Do we want to add any questions or requirements to the
submission form?<br>> >> See suggestions below.<br>> >><br>> >> For #2, we are already making a few minor changes this round
to improve<br>> >> session tagging and ask speakers for “links to past presentations”
and<br>> >> “areas of expertise.” For the session submission, we currently
ask:<br>> >><br>> >> - Session Title<br>> >> - Session level (beginner, intermediate, advanced)<br>> >> - Abstract<br>> >> - Short Description (450 characters max for YouTube and mobile
app)<br>> >> - Select track from dropdown<br>> >> - Tags<br>> >><br>> >> I would suggest consolidating the abstract and short description
to be one<br>> >> question (because submitters often copy/paste it anyway),
and then ask a<br>> >> few additional questions:<br>> >><br>> >> - Who is the intended audience for your session? Please be
specific.<br>> >> - What is the problem or use case you’re addressing in this
session?<br>> >> - What should attendees expect to learn?<br>> >><br>> >> We are also making a few changes to the tracks, primarily
grouping them<br>> >> into content categories to better promote and layout the
content across the<br>> >> week.<br>> >><br>> >> Finally, we will very soon need to select the next round
of track chairs.<br>> >> The Foundation has typically accepted nominations from the
community and<br>> >> appointed track chairs based on subject matter expertise,
contributions,<br>> >> working group involvement, etc. To help bring in new perspectives,
one<br>> >> proposal was to ask track chairs to decide two people from
their team who<br>> >> would continue for the next cycle and nominate two new people
from the<br>> >> community to keep things fresh. We’ve gotten a lot of feedback
that another<br>> >> community vote for track chairs is not desirable, but we
could more broadly<br>> >> communicate the window for nominations. We’re accepting
nominations now<br>> >> (email <a href="mailto:summit@openstack.org" target="_blank">summit@openstack.org</a>) and hope to have track chairs
decided by<br>> >> mid-January. Any thoughts on the process?<br>> >><br>> >> Thanks,<br>> >> Lauren<br>> >><br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Openstack-track-chairs mailing list<br>> >> <a href="mailto:Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a><br>> >> </font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-chairs" target="_blank"><tt><font size="2">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-chairs</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2"><br>> >><br>> >><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > Openstack-track-chairs mailing list<br>> > <a href="mailto:Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a><br>> > </font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-chairs" target="_blank"><tt><font size="2">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-chairs</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2"><br>_______________________________________________<br>Openstack-track-chairs mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">Openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org</a><br></font></tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-chairs" target="_blank"><tt><font size="2">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-track-chairs</font></tt></a><tt><font size="2"><br></font></tt><br><br></div></div>Unless stated otherwise above:<br>
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