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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hello Stefano,<div><br></div><div>"<span style="color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-size: 15px; line-height: 21.2999992370605px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I always considered the voting process as a marketing tool for the event, a community ritual, a celebration of openstack community as a whole and not something that the selection committee should use. I find looking at votes extremely unfair to the submitters and diminishing of the selection committee's role, too. IMO a good committee should evaluate based on quality of content relative to the objectives for that specific summit (overall focus, location), and totally ignore the popularity of their proposers (or their employees).</span><br style="line-height: 21.2999992370605px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-size: 15px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">"</div><div><br></div><div>While I agree with you on some of the points, ignoring voting would essentially remove community from providing any input into the selection. Are you suggesting getting rid of voting all together?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>Egle<br>
<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:01:28 -0700<br>From: stefano.maffulli@dreamhost.com<br>To: nikacost@cisco.com<br>CC: openstack-track-chairs@lists.openstack.org<br>Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] the meaning of the 'How to contribute' track<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Niki Acosta (nikacost) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nikacost@cisco.com" target="_blank">nikacost@cisco.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">We decided as a group to move those to the How to Contribute track with<br>
the following rationale:<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks for sharing the reasoning behind your choice.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
While we liked The Critic as Contributor as a talk, there were few votes </blockquote><div><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
on this talk and the score ranked lower compared to others. </blockquote> [...]</div><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">We did our best to balance vote scoring with what we felt would<br>
have broad community appeal. <br></blockquote><div>[...]<br><br></div><div>The fact that you used votes as a deciding factor, even if only as the last one, saddens me. I see votes as results of a popularity contest and if used for anything, they dramatically damage the minorities that are not on twitter, the people who are shy by nature and those working for companies that don't have a strong social media presence (or don't use it at all). In fact, I'd argue that the results of the votes should be even hidden in the track chair UI. <br><br>I always considered the voting process as a marketing tool for the event, a community ritual, a celebration of openstack community as a whole and not something that the selection committee should use. I find looking at votes extremely unfair to the submitters and diminishing of the selection committee's role, too. IMO a good committee should evaluate based on quality of content relative to the objectives for that specific summit (overall focus, location), and
totally ignore the popularity of their proposers (or their employees).<br><br></div><div>I understand you had other priorities for you track, that's fair. Selections are always hard, we all had a lot more proposals than available slots. I am only commenting on your mention of the results of the popularity contest. I wish there were clear and public guidelines on the purpose of the voting process.<br><br></div><div>/stef<br></div></div></div></div>
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