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Blair Bethwaite wrote:
> Thanks Jimmy!
>
> Also, I'd like to confirm I've seen confusion about this already with 
> folks soliciting support on mailing lists using direct links but 
> providing no other details.
Yeah, we've tried to address this where it has popped up via Twitter, 
IRC, etc... Send them our way and we'll be happy to discuss.
>
> I'd also like to point out that it's pretty straightforward for folks 
> to search for talks, so perhaps a more effective control would be to 
> exclude (or better yet provide customisable filtering via the 
> track-chairs tool) votes from people who only vote on n or less talks 
> where initially n=1 (i.e. don't count "drive bys"). Perhaps this was 
> already suggested/discussed elsewhere though?
Yep, no problem on the search. The idea isn't to prevent people from 
letting users know about their talks. Just to make it a little more 
difficult than a one-click solution. We have discussed the # of votes 
limit before, but so far haven't come up with good criteria to eliminate 
those altogether.
>
> Cheers,
>
> On 27 July 2016 at 13:54, Jimmy Mcarthur <jimmy at tipit.net 
> <mailto:jimmy at tipit.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     Blair Bethwaite wrote:
>>     Hi Erin, Hi Florian,
>>
>>     The first thing I noticed was the reference to Tokyo:
>>     "OpenStack community members are voting on presentations to be
>>     presented at the OpenStack Summit in Tokyo, Japan..."
>     Apologies. Thought we had fixed this early in the day, but it was
>     in two places. Now pushed and working:
>     https://direct.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/vote-for-speakers/
>
>>     :-)
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     On 27 July 2016 at 07:32, Erin Disney <erin at openstack.org
>>     <mailto:erin at openstack.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hey Florian-
>>
>>         We appreciate the feedback, totally open to updating site
>>         with more context on intention surrounding the voting change.
>>
>>         Below please find proposed new copy for the Selection Process
>>         information page you referenced in your email. Know there was
>>         an extensive back and forth over the mailing lists back in
>>         May, but the unique URLs was the only real change to the
>>         process this round. Let me know if you have additional
>>         information you think we should include here.
>>         /Please note: For the first time, unique URLs to submissions
>>         have been removed for this Summit./
>>         /
>>         /
>>         /This is in response to Community and Track Chair feedback.
>>         The hope is that by removing dedicated URLs we are
>>         //promoting fairness across all submissions by
>>         preventing// ballot stuffing and social media spam, evening
>>         the //playing field for people new to the community or from
>>         smaller companies. /
>>
>>         Let me know, thanks again!
>>
>>         Erin Disney
>>         OpenStack Marketing
>>         erin at openstack.org <mailto:erin at openstack.org>
>>
>>>         On Jul 26, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Florian Haas
>>>         <florian at hastexo.com <mailto:florian at hastexo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Obligatory apology for using HTML, in order to faithfully
>>>         reproduce the email blast message.
>>>
>>>         I wonder how others feel about this. We had a lengthy
>>>         discussion about tweaks and optimizations to the voting
>>>         process on this list a while ago, but the "voting now open"
>>>         email that just went out (see below) has no mention of any
>>>         change to the voting mechanics (i.e. *how* voting works, as
>>>         opposed to *why* we do it).
>>>
>>>         Neither does
>>>         https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/call-for-presentations/selection-process,
>>>         which the email refers to (it only talks about news to the
>>>         submission process, not to the voting).
>>>
>>>         I guess it's probably to late to stop the email blast. But I
>>>         wonder if others agree that it's probably a good idea to
>>>         amend the selection process info page?
>>>
>>>         Case in point:
>>>         https://twitter.com/0x44/status/757990623668375552 (would be
>>>         great to explain the intention, which was one of the things
>>>         we did discuss here)
>>>
>>>         What do others think?
>>>
>>>         Cheers,
>>>         Florian
>>>
>>>
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>>>         Date: Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 5:01 PM
>>>         Subject: Community Voting NOW OPEN- OpenStack Summit Barcelona
>>>         To: florian at hastexo.com <mailto:florian at hastexo.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Community voting is now open for OpenStack Summit Barcelona!
>>>         Community voting is now open for OpenStack Summit Barcelona!
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>     -- 
>>     Blair Bethwaite
>>     HPC Consultant (eResearch) -
>>     Monash eResearch Centre (https://platforms.monash.edu/eresearch/)
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> Blair Bethwaite
> HPC Consultant (eResearch) -
> Monash eResearch Centre (https://platforms.monash.edu/eresearch/)
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