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Thanks Kyle!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mestery at mestery.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 12:37 PM
> To: Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com>
> Cc: Edgar Magaña Perdomo <emagana at gmail.com>; Affan Ahmed Syed
> <asyed at plumgrid.com>; openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] reset statistics when a talk is
> moved
> 
> Yes to both. I don't see why we'd want to ignore a valid comment and
> -1 from a different track chair, and as I said before, the new track
> chairs are free to completely ignore the prior feedback if they want.
> Consider it similar to the community voting feedback.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com> wrote:
> > Which is all well and good but … the bigger issue(s) remain.
> >
> >
> >
> > (a)When someone -1’s something should there be a comment; much as we do
> in
> > code reviews?
> >
> > (b)Should -1’s persist when a talk changes tracks.
> >
> >
> >
> > -amrith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Edgar Magaña Perdomo [mailto:emagana at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 12:13 PM
> > To: Affan Ahmed Syed <asyed at plumgrid.com>
> >
> >
> > Cc: openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] reset statistics when a talk is
> moved
> >
> >
> >
> > IMHO, we should not be voting yet. We should just recommend new tracks
> for
> > sessions that we believe they will fit better. After the public voting
> we
> > can properly start our own rating.
> >
> >
> >
> > Edgar
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Affan Ahmed Syed <asyed at plumgrid.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I also think that keeping metadata of track from which a talk has moved
> is
> > also useful information for the new track chair (in case they disagree
> with
> > the new location).
> >
> > Affan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 22, 2016 8:23 PM, "Kyle Mestery" <mestery at mestery.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think the missing piece is that when voting -1, a comment on *why*
> > you voted -1 would be good. And carrying those votes to another track
> > makes sense to me. There's no reason the chairs in the new track need
> > to take the previous votes into consideration, but removing them
> > doesn't make sense either.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com>
> wrote:
> >> Kyle, if you look at the talk in question, there's no reason (that I
> can
> >> see) for the -1.
> >>
> >> Can you?
> >>
> >> So I have no idea where that person rated it -1. Was it because he felt
> it
> >> was a product pitch, or because he (or she) felt it lacked content? Was
> it
> >> because it was inappropriate in the track where he (or she) rated it?
> >>
> >> Or am I supposed to email that reviewer and ask? Or should we mandate
> that
> >> -1's should have reasons?
> >>
> >> All options, not sure what the right one is.
> >>
> >> -amrith
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mestery at mestery.com]
> >>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:10 AM
> >>> To: Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com>
> >>> Cc: openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] reset statistics when a talk is
> >>> moved
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com>
> wrote:
> >>> > When a talk is moved from one track to another, I believe that it
> would
> >>> be a good thing if the ratings on the talk are reset.
> >>> >
> >>> > Consider this talk as an example:
> >>> >
> >>> > https://www.openstack.org/track-chairs/browse/14981?category=73
> >>> >
> >>> > It was given a -1 by someone (I won't mention names because this is
> >>> going to the ML).
> >>> >
> >>> > Also the talk was moved on the request of a reviewer into another
> track
> >>> (hi reviewer, long time no talk).
> >>> >
> >>> > Now, as I see the talk, it still retains the -1 which is likely no
> >>> longer relevant or appropriate.
> >>> >
> >>> > Yet the -1 is used in computing the talks 'score'.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> >
> >>> I actually disagree and think the -1 still holds value, same as a +1
> >>> would hold value. I'm not sure why you think a track chair's vote
> >>> (even if not in the same track) isn't worth retaining post move to be
> >>> honest.
> >>>
> >>> > -amrith
> >>> >
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