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Which is all well and good but … the bigger issue(s) remain.


(a)When someone -1’s something should there be a comment; much as we do in code reviews?

(b)Should -1’s persist when a talk changes tracks.

-amrith


From: Edgar Magaña Perdomo [mailto:emagana at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 12:13 PM
To: Affan Ahmed Syed <asyed at plumgrid.com>
Cc: openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] reset statistics when a talk is moved

IMHO, we should not be voting yet. We should just recommend new tracks for sessions that we believe they will fit better. After the public voting we can properly start our own rating.

Edgar

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Affan Ahmed Syed <asyed at plumgrid.com<mailto:asyed at plumgrid.com>> wrote:

I also think that keeping metadata of track from which a talk has moved is also useful information for the new track chair (in case they disagree with the new location).

Affan

On Jul 22, 2016 8:23 PM, "Kyle Mestery" <mestery at mestery.com<mailto:mestery at mestery.com>> wrote:
I think the missing piece is that when voting -1, a comment on *why*
you voted -1 would be good. And carrying those votes to another track
makes sense to me. There's no reason the chairs in the new track need
to take the previous votes into consideration, but removing them
doesn't make sense either.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com<mailto:amrith at tesora.com>> wrote:
> Kyle, if you look at the talk in question, there's no reason (that I can see) for the -1.
>
> Can you?
>
> So I have no idea where that person rated it -1. Was it because he felt it was a product pitch, or because he (or she) felt it lacked content? Was it because it was inappropriate in the track where he (or she) rated it?
>
> Or am I supposed to email that reviewer and ask? Or should we mandate that -1's should have reasons?
>
> All options, not sure what the right one is.
>
> -amrith
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kyle Mestery [mailto:mestery at mestery.com<mailto:mestery at mestery.com>]
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:10 AM
>> To: Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com<mailto:amrith at tesora.com>>
>> Cc: openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] reset statistics when a talk is
>> moved
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com<mailto:amrith at tesora.com>> wrote:
>> > When a talk is moved from one track to another, I believe that it would
>> be a good thing if the ratings on the talk are reset.
>> >
>> > Consider this talk as an example:
>> >
>> > https://www.openstack.org/track-chairs/browse/14981?category=73
>> >
>> > It was given a -1 by someone (I won't mention names because this is
>> going to the ML).
>> >
>> > Also the talk was moved on the request of a reviewer into another track
>> (hi reviewer, long time no talk).
>> >
>> > Now, as I see the talk, it still retains the -1 which is likely no
>> longer relevant or appropriate.
>> >
>> > Yet the -1 is used in computing the talks 'score'.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> I actually disagree and think the -1 still holds value, same as a +1
>> would hold value. I'm not sure why you think a track chair's vote
>> (even if not in the same track) isn't worth retaining post move to be
>> honest.
>>
>> > -amrith
>> >
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