[Openstack-track-chairs] Submitting proposals after closing

Matt Jarvis matt.jarvis at datacentred.co.uk
Mon Feb 8 11:20:36 UTC 2016


Just to be clear, this wouldn't be a proposal about DataCentred, we run an
entirely vanilla OpenStack cloud anyway. As far as I am concerned any talk
would be specifically about the HRMC digital transformation project and the
benefits they've seen from running on OpenStack.

Their workload is a black box to us really anyway, I'm definitely not
taking any responsibility for anyone's tax return status ;)

On 8 February 2016 at 10:00, Salvatore Orlando <salv.orlando at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I agree with Jonathan that the decision ultimately rests with the track
> chairs for the case study track.
> In my opinion, ff the track is already crowded with proposals, perhaps the
> best thing to do is to invite HMRC and Datacentred to submit a talk for
> Barcelona; otherwise an invited talk might be considered.
>
> The hard question for the chairs of the case study track is to understand
> how compelling is this use case for the OpenStack users and operators
> community.
> As for the comparison brought up by Florian, I don't think this sort of
> talk comes with any "PR risk".
>
> On another note, this might explain why this year HMRC ended up processing
> my payment after the deadline even if I made it well before it... If I'm
> slapped with a penalty I now know who I should complain with...
>
> Salvatore
>
>
> On 8 February 2016 at 09:40, Florian Haas <florian at hastexo.com> wrote:
>
>> One additional point here. I don't know about what others think, but
>> one major government user story we had at a Summit was the NSA, a few
>> months prior to Snowden. I don't think that there's anything the
>> Summit organizers for Portland are to be blamed for, because it wasn't
>> public knowledge at the time that Five Eyes are essentially spying on
>> citizens across the planet. But I can tell you that if *I* had been
>> the one that made the decision at the time to put them on stage, in
>> front of an international community a large portion of which the
>> speaker would be expected to treat as adversaries and targets, I'd be
>> immensely retroactively embarrassed.
>>
>> Now clearly I don't want to equate national legal tax collection with
>> offensive and indiscriminate global blanket surveillance, but I do
>> believe that any superuser stories, keynotes etc. should receive extra
>> scrutiny and vetting from Summit organizers, particularly when they
>> come from government agencies. In Portland this community was new and
>> not under much media scrutiny, so we got some breaks; I think we don't
>> get those anymore.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Florian
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Matt Jarvis
>> <matt.jarvis at datacentred.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Yep, agree with all your comments, although to be fair they are not
>> really
>> > engaged with the community so weren't aware about the Summits. They were
>> > planning to blog about it, and I suggested they should submit something.
>> >
>> > If it had been just another commercial company implementing it, I
>> wouldn't
>> > have brought it up, but given it's a major world government I thought
>> it's a
>> > pretty important story for OpenStack adoption.
>>
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