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Hello to All.

I'd vote for having an opportunity to get valuable talk onboarded to our tracks.
Thanks to opened discussion in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-track-chairs/2016-February/000280.html

So, here's what we, as Cloud Application Development Track Chair, have. After have discussions about why do have so much deployment practices related talks in submissions. So we'd like to understand if it's still possible to propose one more talk to our Track. And here's what we have for now:

       1. shows how app developers see OpenStack at this moment
       2. discovers current problem (code that runs on clouds is not a cloud app)
       3. describes real-world story (for any customer that would talk about cloud consuming not in a context of app deployment)
       4. thoughts about how OpenStack should change in order to be more attractive to developers.
       5. conclusions

Format of this talk would be a discussion or debates on given topic, just as Nick said. For now we're looking for speakers (we have couple candidates - Greg Pryzby, Ryan Baxter, John Rhoton, and me as volunteer).

So what would be our next steps. The one is to wait until community would vote and see if community wants to see as part of Cloud Application Track. Based on their demands, we would decide of we, as Track Chairs, propose a talk as an attempt to align global understanding what cloud app is.

Kind regards,
Denys Makogon

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From: Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 10:01 PM
To: Denys Makogon; Florian Haas; stefano.maffulli at dreamhost.com
Cc: openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Cloud Application Development Track future improvements

On 2/6/2016 2:03 PM, Denys Makogon wrote:
> And yet one thing more, it seems to be that problem appears in understanding of what actually Cloud Application is.
> >From developers perspective, cloud application is nothing else rather than regular application, but adjusted (micro-service architecture) according to deployment environment capabilities (distributed platform, etc.). Basically, word "cloud" means the where application would run. But we're missing key thing, how can we consume OpenStack services for building software that facing to a regular users (i've seen one talk like what i've described, it was about Zaqar and micro-service interactions in applications - this is what we should look and ask for).

I completely agree -- that there's disagreement.  Just because you run
an application in the cloud doesn't make it a cloud application, and
that's something that is covered in at least one proposal.

Or maybe we need a panel to discuss the distinction. :)

----  Nick