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Wow! Great to see so much lively conversation around the Track Chair 
tool and process. There are some really good ideas here. We will take 
some time to review with our development team and update this list with 
a final summary of requests.

One thing we try to do is strive towards a better tool that can meet 
your needs, rather than forcing you to export everything to a 
spreadsheet. We get a little closer each round, but recognize there is 
always room for improved efficiencies. While we can't get every feature 
in, we do our best to make your lives as easy as possible.

If it would be helpful for Track Chairs to meet in Barcelona, please let 
me know and a few of us from the Foundation Staff will try to make it. 
Generally, I think the email list has been pretty effective in 
communicating with one another, but we're happy to meet if it would help.

Also want to say thanks for the kind words on the current tool. The 
praise really goes to Aaron Carlino (@unclecheese), who did the heavy 
dev work on the Track Chair development. Thanks, Aaron!

Cheers,
Summit Speaker Team



> Amrith Kumar <mailto:amrith at tesora.com>
> August 25, 2016 at 7:12 PM
>
> Well said Matt!
>
> *From:*Matt Fischer [mailto:matt at mattfischer.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:28 PM
> *To:* Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com>
> *Cc:* openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Track Chair Feedback
>
> I hope that the track chairs were not only selected on the basis of 
> technical knowledge but on their integrity and of putting the summit & 
> community ahead of company goals. I also think that the foundation has 
> done a good job ensuring that different communities and companies are 
> chosen, which hopefully avoids the ability of one company to push 
> their talks over others. For me, I will never push a team talk unless 
> the other track chairs have it under consideration, and if they do I'm 
> happy to provide honest feedback on it. I hope fellow track chairs 
> will concur with that.
>
> Opening up a requirement that track chairs have to justify why they 
> chose one talk over another will only foster further argument, it 
> won't resolve anything. It's also untenable when rejecting 200 talks 
> to justify the ranking of each one. And regardless of what you do and 
> whether you justify your reasons or not, many good talks were not 
> picked, and some feelings were probably hurt.
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com 
> <mailto:nchase at mirantis.com>> wrote:
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> Matt Fischer <mailto:matt at mattfischer.com>
> August 25, 2016 at 3:28 PM
> I hope that the track chairs were not only selected on the basis of 
> technical knowledge but on their integrity and of putting the summit & 
> community ahead of company goals. I also think that the foundation has 
> done a good job ensuring that different communities and companies are 
> chosen, which hopefully avoids the ability of one company to push 
> their talks over others. For me, I will never push a team talk unless 
> the other track chairs have it under consideration, and if they do I'm 
> happy to provide honest feedback on it. I hope fellow track chairs 
> will concur with that.
>
> Opening up a requirement that track chairs have to justify why they 
> chose one talk over another will only foster further argument, it 
> won't resolve anything. It's also untenable when rejecting 200 talks 
> to justify the ranking of each one. And regardless of what you do and 
> whether you justify your reasons or not, many good talks were not 
> picked, and some feelings were probably hurt.
>
>
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> Nick Chase <mailto:nchase at mirantis.com>
> August 25, 2016 at 3:13 PM
>
> Well, when we were working on our track (both this time and for 
> Austin) what we did was break it down into sections (for example, we 
> might have 3 talks on "DevOps") and then try to choose a talk from 
> each section.  In some cases, we had to choose between similar talks, 
> and discuss what our rationale was; it wouldn't be a bad thing to 
> provide a place for track chairs to explain their choices.  It would 
> even provide a way for submitters to improve their submissions for 
> next time.
>
> ----  Nick
>
>
> On 8/25/2016 3:50 PM, Shilla Saebi wrote:
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> Shilla Saebi <mailto:shilla.saebi at gmail.com>
> August 25, 2016 at 2:50 PM
> I think we should come up with a way for track chairs who have to make 
> selections on talks that were submitted by members of their own 
> company or team to be fair. I noticed a few talks go through where the 
> track chairs worked for the same company as the talks that were 
> selected, and other talks with more complete abstracts (in my opinion) 
> and a more diverse set of speakers, was not selected.
>
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> Nathan C Ziemann <mailto:ziemann at us.ibm.com>
> August 25, 2016 at 1:18 PM
> +1 on export.
>
> We wrapped up our final selections using a spreadsheet which makes it 
> easy to evaluate multiple criteria and chair votes/comments in one view.
>
> Nate Ziemann
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com 
> <mailto:nchase at mirantis.com>> wrote:
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