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Well said Matt!

From: Matt Fischer [mailto:matt at mattfischer.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:28 PM
To: Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com>
Cc: openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Track Chair Feedback

I hope that the track chairs were not only selected on the basis of technical knowledge but on their integrity and of putting the summit & community ahead of company goals. I also think that the foundation has done a good job ensuring that different communities and companies are chosen, which hopefully avoids the ability of one company to push their talks over others. For me, I will never push a team talk unless the other track chairs have it under consideration, and if they do I'm happy to provide honest feedback on it. I hope fellow track chairs will concur with that.

Opening up a requirement that track chairs have to justify why they chose one talk over another will only foster further argument, it won't resolve anything. It's also untenable when rejecting 200 talks to justify the ranking of each one. And regardless of what you do and whether you justify your reasons or not, many good talks were not picked, and some feelings were probably hurt.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com<mailto:nchase at mirantis.com>> wrote:

Well, when we were working on our track (both this time and for Austin) what we did was break it down into sections (for example, we might have 3 talks on "DevOps") and then try to choose a talk from each section.  In some cases, we had to choose between similar talks, and discuss what our rationale was; it wouldn't be a bad thing to provide a place for track chairs to explain their choices.  It would even provide a way for submitters to improve their submissions for next time.

----  Nick

On 8/25/2016 3:50 PM, Shilla Saebi wrote:
I think we should come up with a way for track chairs who have to make selections on talks that were submitted by members of their own company or team to be fair. I noticed a few talks go through where the track chairs worked for the same company as the talks that were selected, and other talks with more complete abstracts (in my opinion) and a more diverse set of speakers, was not selected.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Nathan C Ziemann <ziemann at us.ibm.com<mailto:ziemann at us.ibm.com>> wrote:
+1 on export.

We wrapped up our final selections using a spreadsheet which makes it easy to evaluate multiple criteria and chair votes/comments in one view.

Nate Ziemann
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com<mailto:nchase at mirantis.com>> wrote:
Actually the last two summits tracks I've worked with have finished up in spreadsheets, where we've organized submissions by topic and marked off who voted for each.  It really made the final processing easier.

I'd love to see a simple "export" function so we don't wind up doing it by hand.

---- Nick

On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com<mailto:amrith at tesora.com>> wrote:
On the whole, I think the process and the tool were fine, there were some hiccups that you have already identified.

I found the user interface (specifically the two pane format and the sizing requirement) to be a little troublesome. Eventually I just grabbed the json off the interface and populated a spreadsheet and that worked out much easier.

Why was that?

I wanted to tag each of the 93 talks with a bunch of tags that I found to be useful, things like the names of the projects covered, sales-pitch, customer-story, performance, … and so on, and later filter talks based on those tags.

So, if the next iteration of the tool had a way in which each chair could tag talks using an arbitrary (private) set of tags, that would be nifty.

-amrith

From: Kunzmann, Gerald [mailto:kunzmann at docomolab-euro.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 3:22 AM
To: openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Track Chair Feedback

+1 nice tool.

Would be great to have a sort function e.g. by “community vote”.

Gerald

From: Travis McPeak [mailto:travis.mcpeak at gmail.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 25. August 2016 02:02
To: Christopher Aedo <doc at aedo.net<mailto:doc at aedo.net>>; openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Track Chair Feedback

+1 great tool and easy process overall.

Thanks!
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016, 4:47 PM Christopher Aedo <doc at aedo.net<mailto:doc at aedo.net>> wrote:
Thank you for all the hard work you've put into this tool (and all the
other OpenStack bits you're always improving.)  This was my second
time around and I thought the tool worked great - looking forward to
seeing even more improvements for Boston!

Thank you Jimmy!

-Christopher

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Jimmy McArthur <jimmy at openstack.org<mailto:jimmy at openstack.org>> wrote:
> All -
>
> Thanks again for your hard (and quick!) work on the OpenStack Barcelona
> Summit Track selections. You all did an amazing job and we're really
> grateful to each of you.
>
> I took notes of feedback, but please feel free to add to the list if you
> feel I've missed something:
>
> Better ability for Track Chairs to merge
>
> Option to email all speakers from one or more presentations
> Ability for Speakers to submit/propose a new Title / Abstract as an
> attachment or within the thread
> Track Chairs ability to deactivate merged talks, and save one with new
> abstract (or merge into a new record so we don't taint the originals)
>
> Email issues
>
> Track conversations with users within the Track Chair tool i/o just via
> email. Could also consider using ZenDesk API for this?
> There was a problem with Sendgrid API this go round, so there were just
> generally problems. They were:
>
> No CC of other track chairs
> Reply address was noreply at openstack.org<mailto:noreply at openstack.org> i/o the ZenDesk ticket
> Adding name of Presentation and other details automatically within the email
> "Track chair XYZ has a question about your presentation: ABCD"
> Email all speakers i/o just one
>
> Need the option back of being able to compare everyone's list side by side
>
> The new method of using the dropdown makes it difficult for the team to
> compare selected talks
> A way to auto-select common talks for placement in the team section would be
> cool, or at least a way to quickly view that list, along with the # of team
> members that selected each talk
>
> An option for a Track to "Close" their selections
>
> Send an email to track chairs list
> Mark Track as "Closed" for non-admins
>
> Another suggestion for the Boston CFP process might be to consider separate
> user and developer sub-tracks. For example. What might be considered a How
> To/Best Practice for developers might be completely irrelevant to users.
> We at Dev Tools track found out that there are a lot of drafts related to
> the CI/CD and Testing processes. Seems reasonable to add such a track
> (Deployment and Testing) as an option for the next summit. What do you
> think?
>
>
> Thank you again!
> Jimmy
>
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