[Openstack-track-chairs] Track Chair Feedback

Mark Collier mark at openstack.org
Thu Aug 25 20:31:33 UTC 2016


+1


On August 25, 2016 3:28:25 PM Matt Fischer <matt at mattfischer.com> wrote:

> I hope that the track chairs were not only selected on the basis of
> technical knowledge but on their integrity and of putting the summit &
> community ahead of company goals. I also think that the foundation has done
> a good job ensuring that different communities and companies are chosen,
> which hopefully avoids the ability of one company to push their talks over
> others. For me, I will never push a team talk unless the other track chairs
> have it under consideration, and if they do I'm happy to provide honest
> feedback on it. I hope fellow track chairs will concur with that.
>
> Opening up a requirement that track chairs have to justify why they chose
> one talk over another will only foster further argument, it won't resolve
> anything. It's also untenable when rejecting 200 talks to justify the
> ranking of each one. And regardless of what you do and whether you justify
> your reasons or not, many good talks were not picked, and some feelings
> were probably hurt.
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, when we were working on our track (both this time and for Austin)
>> what we did was break it down into sections (for example, we might have 3
>> talks on "DevOps") and then try to choose a talk from each section.  In
>> some cases, we had to choose between similar talks, and discuss what our
>> rationale was; it wouldn't be a bad thing to provide a place for track
>> chairs to explain their choices.  It would even provide a way for
>> submitters to improve their submissions for next time.
>>
>> ----  Nick
>>
>> On 8/25/2016 3:50 PM, Shilla Saebi wrote:
>>
>> I think we should come up with a way for track chairs who have to make
>> selections on talks that were submitted by members of their own company or
>> team to be fair. I noticed a few talks go through where the track chairs
>> worked for the same company as the talks that were selected, and other
>> talks with more complete abstracts (in my opinion) and a more diverse set
>> of speakers, was not selected.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Nathan C Ziemann <ziemann at us.ibm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on export.
>>>
>>> We wrapped up our final selections using a spreadsheet which makes it
>>> easy to evaluate multiple criteria and chair votes/comments in one view.
>>>
>>> Nate Ziemann
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually the last two summits tracks I've worked with have finished up in
>>> spreadsheets, where we've organized submissions by topic and marked off who
>>> voted for each.  It really made the final processing easier.
>>>
>>> I'd love to see a simple "export" function so we don't wind up doing it
>>> by hand.
>>>
>>> ---- Nick
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the whole, I think the process and the tool were fine, there were
>>>> some hiccups that you have already identified.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I found the user interface (specifically the two pane format and the
>>>> sizing requirement) to be a little troublesome. Eventually I just grabbed
>>>> the json off the interface and populated a spreadsheet and that worked out
>>>> much easier.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why was that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to tag each of the 93 talks with a bunch of tags that I found
>>>> to be useful, things like the names of the projects covered, sales-pitch,
>>>> customer-story, performance, … and so on, and later filter talks based on
>>>> those tags.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, if the next iteration of the tool had a way in which each chair
>>>> could tag talks using an arbitrary (private) set of tags, that would be
>>>> nifty.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -amrith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Kunzmann, Gerald [mailto:kunzmann at docomolab-euro.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2016 3:22 AM
>>>> *To:* openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Track Chair Feedback
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 nice tool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Would be great to have a sort function e.g. by “community vote”.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gerald
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Travis McPeak [mailto:travis.mcpeak at gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Donnerstag, 25. August 2016 02:02
>>>> *To:* Christopher Aedo <doc at aedo.net>; openstack-track-chairs at lists.o
>>>> penstack.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Track Chair Feedback
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 great tool and easy process overall.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016, 4:47 PM Christopher Aedo <doc at aedo.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for all the hard work you've put into this tool (and all the
>>>> other OpenStack bits you're always improving.)  This was my second
>>>> time around and I thought the tool worked great - looking forward to
>>>> seeing even more improvements for Boston!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Jimmy!
>>>>
>>>> -Christopher
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Jimmy McArthur <jimmy at openstack.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > All -
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks again for your hard (and quick!) work on the OpenStack Barcelona
>>>> > Summit Track selections. You all did an amazing job and we're really
>>>> > grateful to each of you.
>>>> >
>>>> > I took notes of feedback, but please feel free to add to the list if
>>>> you
>>>> > feel I've missed something:
>>>> >
>>>> > Better ability for Track Chairs to merge
>>>> >
>>>> > Option to email all speakers from one or more presentations
>>>> > Ability for Speakers to submit/propose a new Title / Abstract as an
>>>> > attachment or within the thread
>>>> > Track Chairs ability to deactivate merged talks, and save one with new
>>>> > abstract (or merge into a new record so we don't taint the originals)
>>>> >
>>>> > Email issues
>>>> >
>>>> > Track conversations with users within the Track Chair tool i/o just via
>>>> > email. Could also consider using ZenDesk API for this?
>>>> > There was a problem with Sendgrid API this go round, so there were just
>>>> > generally problems. They were:
>>>> >
>>>> > No CC of other track chairs
>>>> > Reply address was noreply at openstack.org i/o the ZenDesk ticket
>>>> > Adding name of Presentation and other details automatically within the
>>>> email
>>>> > "Track chair XYZ has a question about your presentation: ABCD"
>>>> > Email all speakers i/o just one
>>>> >
>>>> > Need the option back of being able to compare everyone's list side by
>>>> side
>>>> >
>>>> > The new method of using the dropdown makes it difficult for the team to
>>>> > compare selected talks
>>>> > A way to auto-select common talks for placement in the team section
>>>> would be
>>>> > cool, or at least a way to quickly view that list, along with the # of
>>>> team
>>>> > members that selected each talk
>>>> >
>>>> > An option for a Track to "Close" their selections
>>>> >
>>>> > Send an email to track chairs list
>>>> > Mark Track as "Closed" for non-admins
>>>> >
>>>> > Another suggestion for the Boston CFP process might be to consider
>>>> separate
>>>> > user and developer sub-tracks. For example. What might be considered a
>>>> How
>>>> > To/Best Practice for developers might be completely irrelevant to
>>>> users.
>>>> > We at Dev Tools track found out that there are a lot of drafts related
>>>> to
>>>> > the CI/CD and Testing processes. Seems reasonable to add such a track
>>>> > (Deployment and Testing) as an option for the next summit. What do you
>>>> > think?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you again!
>>>> > Jimmy
>>>> >
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>> Editor in Chief, OpenStack:Unlocked
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