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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Thank you all for your support. I strongly believe that all OpenStack users that have expressed that they do not feel recognized as members of the community will start to have a better
feeling after we complete this work. As Governance, both TC and UC are equality important and make sense to start collaborating very tight and harmonically.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">For instance, the reference in tweeter for the governance will be a clear example where both TC and UC could share their interests and opinions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">For the repo, it seems that the work is doable and there are already some commits to provide more granularity to the governance one. (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296141/)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Doug Hellmann <doug@doughellmann.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 11:40 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Anne Gentle <annegentle@justwriteclick.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Russell Bryant <rbryant@redhat.com>, "openstack-tc@lists.openstack.org" <openstack-tc@lists.openstack.org>, Edgar Magana <edgar.magana@workday.com>, "user-committee@lists.openstack.org" <user-committee@lists.openstack.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [User-committee] [openstack-tc] Adding UC charter to OpenStack Governance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 1, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Anne Gentle <<a href="mailto:annegentle@justwriteclick.com">annegentle@justwriteclick.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Doug Hellmann <<a href="mailto:doug@doughellmann.com" target="_blank">doug@doughellmann.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Russell Bryant <<a href="mailto:rbryant@redhat.com" target="_blank">rbryant@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Edgar Magana <<a href="mailto:edgar.magana@workday.com" target="_blank">edgar.magana@workday.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">All those references can be fixed. We do not feel like an impediment for this proposal.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial">We can certainly fix the references we control. Others we do not control.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial">One example: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_search-3Ff-3Dtweets-26q-3Dgovernance.openstack.org&d=CwMFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=G0XRJfDQsuBvqa_wpWyDAUlSpeMV4W1qfWqBfctlWwQ&m=sdQe6F82ShcIYjA-K6yju63d7dYcVw7NKS1qFn3M68A&s=99seUZPnlUal3ZgMCyvuDidbSw-p0WTKlYaF3zumw5s&e=" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal">The existing content includes TC resolutions and project rules. Because of the nature of the content, we’ve limited roll call reviewers and merge access to the TC and TC chair respectively. It seems like the UC is going to want similar
control over their own content, and doing that would be simpler using a separate repository published to a separate site. We don’t put any board content in the existing repo either, so it’s not like having a separate repo would be unequal or disadvantaging
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sure, we'll have to have more reviewers and so on, but the docs site has had to adjust and I think we should too. No new subdomains are required to get to our end goals I believe.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The point is more that I think it would mix two sets of unrelated content. Unless we’re talking about separate repositories that are published to a subtree under the governance domain?<o:p></o:p></p>
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