<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Jarret Raim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jarret.raim@rackspace.com" target="_blank">jarret.raim@rackspace.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Barbican is the OpenStack key management service and we’d like to request incubation for the Icehouse release. A Rackspace sponsored team has been working for about 9 months now, including following the Havana release cycle for our first release.</div>
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<div>Our incubation request is here:</div>
<div><a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Barbican" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Barbican</a></div>
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<div>Our documentation is mostly hosted at GitHub for the moment, though we are in the process of converting much of it to DocBook.</div>
<div><a href="https://github.com/cloudkeep/barbican" target="_blank">https://github.com/cloudkeep/barbican</a></div>
<div><a href="https://github.com/cloudkeep/barbican/wiki" target="_blank">https://github.com/cloudkeep/barbican/wiki</a></div>
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<div>The Barbican team will be on IRC today at #openstack-barbican and you can contact us using the <a href="mailto:barbican@lists.rackspace.com" target="_blank">barbican@lists.rackspace.com</a> mailing list if desired.</div>
<div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I'd like to look at keeping things simple when they can be simple. I need to understand why there's already a key distribution service under keystone? </div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40692/18/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3-os-kds-ext.md" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40692/18/openstack-identity-api/v3/src/markdown/identity-api-v3-os-kds-ext.md</a><br>
</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">There could be two ways of looking at this - is Identity changing their scope? Or is an incubating project trying to take work away from an existing program? Not sure. I mostly just want to know who is best served by a new code base getting incubated under our defined umbrella.</div>
</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I agree that Barbican solves different problems than identity, and we need to figure out the motivations for the seeming pressing need to differentiate from keystone-the-project. There's autonomy, gathering your own team, and probably other reasons. Can you expand on your need for pursuing this incubation route? <br>
</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I do realize we are clarifying our incubation route, so partially we need to explore the "incubation under an existing" possibility and pros and cons. I'm doing something unofficial with the training group, for example. There are certainly pros and cons there. But I don't want to muddy the waters with that discussion, I want to hear from Barbican about your explorations of collaborating with Keystone and your motivations for wanting a separate application.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Thanks,</div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Anne</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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