[openstack-tc] No joint leadership meeting around Dublin PTG?

Flavio Percoco flavio at redhat.com
Thu Oct 26 14:36:52 UTC 2017


On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 4:14 PM Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:

>
> > On Oct 26, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 26, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2017-10-26 09:49:40 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote:
> >>> Alan is proposing to go back to having only two formal in-person
> >>> "leadership" meetings per year (around Summits).
> >> [...]
> >>> So for Dublin he is proposing that only the Board meets in Dublin
> >>> (probably on Monday).
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Sounds reasonable, though it's still somewhat of a schedule conflict
> >> for those who also like to attend or dial into the board meetings.
> >> Regardless, I agree it's probably a reasonable use of resources.
> >
> > Monday is absolutely a conflict because we still have individual board
> members who are technical contributors who are likely to be needed at the
> PTG on Monday.
>
> More detail:
>
> This is the third time for having this scheduling conversation around the
> Board meeting and the PTG. The first time around we didn’t even want the
> meeting co-located, but I think that worked out OK during the Denver
> meeting. That said, the reasons for not holding the meeting during the week
> haven’t changed.
>
> We have technical contributors serving on the Board, and we don’t want
> them to have to choose between their Board duties and participating in
> face-to-face technical discussions that only happen twice each year.
>
> Today at least one of those board members is a PTL (gcb). It’s also common
> to have cross-over between the Board and the TC (Monty). We will be holding
> Board elections between now and February, so the individual member makeup
> of the Board is likely to change. We could have even more schedule
> conflicts after that election.
>
> Monday, as a cross-project meeting day at the PTG is particularly bad
> timing because we have had cross-project discussions on Monday and Tuesday,
> and our stronger community leaders tend to be deeply involved on those
> days. I don’t know if another day of the week will be better. Friday might
> be, because things tend to slow down and we are more focused on vertical
> project teams so that it is conceivably easier for someone to skip
> conversations that have been put off until the end of the week. On the
> other hand, we’re still fine-tuning the scheduling for the PTG, so I don’t
> know if it’s safe to make the assumption that there won’t be cross-project
> meetings on Friday.
>

FWIW, I fully agree with Doug here. I replied to the original email on the
point for not having the joint meeting and failed to notice this conflict.

Flavio


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