[openstack-tc] Productivity of the weekly TC meetings

Doug Hellmann doug at doughellmann.com
Mon May 23 20:54:01 UTC 2016


> On May 23, 2016, at 4:58 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org> wrote:
> 
> Flavio Percoco wrote:
>>>> - Do not automatically discuss everything in governance but only
>>>> things a
>>>> member raises specifically as IRC meeting topic ? (i.e. if after one
>>>> week a
>>>> thing has 7-votes and nobody puts it on the agenda, consider it good)
>>>> - something else ?
>> 
>> We kinda do this already, don't we?
> 
> Only for a number of simple changes. Resolutions and other significant formal-vote changes are systematically discussed in-meeting, even if nobody puts them on the agenda.
> 
>> [...]
>> I've been thinking more about this and I believe what we need is to be more
>> strong with keeping the IRC conversation focused. All the parallel
>> discussions
>> are not helpful. It's like being in an in-person meeting and having
>> everyone
>> talking over each other about different things. Sure, it's IRC but...
> 
> Right, my take-away of this discussion so far is that we should not change the meeting format or discussions that much, but (1) spend time in advance of the meeting to review the proposed change (not necessarily just minutes before the meeting) so that we know where everyone is standing and (2) try to avoid side-discussions when we discuss a topic as best as we can.

Avoiding side-discussions would go a long way to making the meetings easier to follow. Most of us know each other pretty well by now, and can follow a couple of threads or recognize one that can be ignored safely. I would expect someone who doesn’t know us and is trying to figure out the meeting by following the logs (or even in real time) to have a much harder time.

I don’t want to lose the fun nature of some of the asides, but maybe we can all work on limiting the number (or length) of off-topic tangents to help keep the discussion focused.

Doug

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
> 
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