[openstack-tc] J naming poll

Doug Hellmann doug.hellmann at dreamhost.com
Thu Dec 12 15:40:55 UTC 2013


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>wrote:

> Hi fellow members of the TC,
>
> We now have a set of 10 potential names for the J release [1], and need
> to pick the best method to select the winner. Historically we held a
> Launchpad poll (~openstack group) over a refined set of 4-5 options. The
> problem is, we don't really use the Launchpad ~openstack group anymore
> (used to be the subscribers to the openstack ML) and the group was
> therefore closed... so that's no longer the "less worse" option.
>
> A few proposed solutions:
>
> 1. "Public" CIVS vote, accessible to everyone with the link
> Easy to set up, but vote is limited to one per IP address, which can
> block legitimate voters while encouraging ballot stuffing.
>
> 2a. Private CIVS vote, link sent to openstack-dev subscribers
> A bit painful to set up (need to extract the 2926 subscribers emails,
> then feed them to CIVS by batches of less than 1000), but at least it's
> not gameable. One difference is that receiving a private vote email will
> result in more participation than the only-announced-on-ML Launchpad poll.
>
> 2b. Private CIVS vote, link sent to openstack list subscribers
> More painful to set up (8573 members), and CIVS advises against being
> used to run above "a couple thousands voters". That said it's probably
> the closest to the people who voted in the past (general list).
>
> 3. Launchpad poll over ~openstack
> The OpenStack group is still there, so technically we could still refine
> the list to 4-5 candidates and set up a poll there. It's not as good as
> Condorcet though, and would be more like "the people who used to vote in
> previous names" than "the people who should vote now".
>
> 4a. Screw popular voting, let's do a TC members condorcet
> Easy option. Might be seen as TC power landgrab, and it was funny to let
> the "people" decide.
>
> 4b. Screw voting, let's pick Jekyll and be done with it
> A variant of the previous option in case of consensus.
>
> I'm open to other suggestions :)
>

It seems like part of the problem is with the tooling. Do we need this vote
to be as secure as PTL or TC elections? Would a tool like survey monkey be
easier to work with for this case?

Doug



>
> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNaming
>
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