<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 5:30 AM Zane Bitter <<a href="mailto:zbitter@redhat.com">zbitter@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">...<br>
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Perhaps there are others too?<br>
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Obvious questions to ask from there would be:<br>
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- Whether this is the most important issue facing contributors from the <br>
APAC region<br>
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- To what extent the proposed solution is expected to help<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I do agree with Zane on the above point. </div><div><br></div><div><br><div>As one of OpenStack participants from Asia region, I will put my personal opinion. <br></div><div><div>IRC and ML has been an unified and standard way of communication in OpenStack Community, and that has been a good way to encourage "open communication" on a unified method wherever you are from, or whatever background you have. If the whole community start recognize some other tools (say WeChat) as recommended alternative communication method because there are many people there, ironically, it might be a way to break "diversity" and "openness" we want to embrace. </div><div><br></div><div>Using whatever social media (or tools) in a specific region due to any reason is not a problem. Anyone is free to use anything. Only thing we need to make sure is, if you want to communicate officially with the whole community, there is a very well defined and unified way to do it. This is currently IRC and ML. Some of Korean dev has difficulties to use IRC. However, there is not a perfect tool out there in this world, and we accept all the reason why the community selected IRC as official tool </div><div><br></div><div>But, that being said, There are some things I am facing with IRC from here in Korea </div><div><br></div><div>As a person from Asia, I do have some of pain points. Because of time differences, often, I have to do achieve searching since most of conversations happened while I am sleeping. IRC is not a good tool to perform "search backlog". Although there is message archive you can dig, it is still hard. This is a problem. I do love to see any technical solution for me to efficiently and easily go through irc backlog, like most of modern chat tools. </div><div><br></div><div>Secondly, IRC is not a popular one even in dev community here in Korea. In addition, in order to properly use irc, you need to do extra work, something like setting up bouncing server. I had to do google search to figure out how to use it. In that sense, It would be great to have OpenStack community provided, simplified and well-written, written in multiple language, IRC guide docs. Alternatively, if OpenStack community can provide a good web-based irc client tool, that would be fantastic. </div><div><br></div><div>As I described the above, we can certainly have a healthy discussion on what different and real problems we are facing from Asia. </div><div>However, I don't think this TC resolution is good way to do that. </div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers, </div></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr">Jaesuk Ahn, Team Lead<br>Virtualization SW Lab, SW R&D Center</p><p>SK Telecom </p>
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