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Yep, you’re right. It seems like we'd have to get a verbal agreement and make no promise of confidentiality.
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<div>On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Kruithof, Piet <<a href="mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com">pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(123, 123, 123);">As a group, we would also need to discuss who would have access to the recordings. There is kind of a difference between having a participant sign a consent or verbally
agree when the recording will be kept safely within a company like RackSpace or HP. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(123, 123, 123);">In this case, the recordings could be shared with anyone within or potentially outside of the community. As far as I know, the community has no policies around how
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<b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jacki Bauer [<a href="mailto:jacki.bauer@RACKSPACE.COM" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:jacki.bauer@RACKSPACE.COM</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Kruithof, Piet<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Liz Blanchard; Jeffrey A Calcaterra; Ju Lim; Meingast, Melissa; Michelle Peterson;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:openstack-personas@lists.openstack.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">openstack-personas@lists.openstack.org</a>;
Gallagher, Phyllis; Thuy T Duong<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openstack-personas] link to persona interview questions<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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I’m not sure about other companies, but Rackspace legal allows us to get verbal consent. I also have NDA and consent forms that I could have someone sign.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Even good notetakers can miss things, but especially because there are 4 teams of interviewers, having a recording can allow us to look back and see whether the interviews were done consistently, if one interviewer emphasized something more than another, etc. <o:p></o:p></div>
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On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Kruithof, Piet <<a href="mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(123, 123, 123);">There are potentially some issues around recording the sessions. For example, the participants have not signed any legal documents agreeing to be recorded. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Liz
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:19 AM<br>
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Gallagher, Phyllis; Kruithof, Piet; Thuy T Duong<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Openstack-personas] link to persona interview questions</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Jacki Bauer <<a href="mailto:jacki.bauer@rackspace.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">jacki.bauer@rackspace.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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Thanks Jeff, I think this is totally manageable now and will make for informative pilot interviews.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Agreed! Thanks Jeff and Jacki for taking the time on this. Ju and I are doing our first interview on Friday with a developer so we will have feedback for the next Persona meeting for sure.<o:p></o:p></div>
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I think recording these is really important. Has anyone recorded a google hangout before? If I can’t figure out how to do it I might just use webex.<o:p></o:p></div>
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I’m not sure we are planning to record these, but one person will be vigorously taking notes :) As far as recording hangouts goes…you could just use Quicktime to do a screen recording. There is also Hangouts on Air [1], but this is really meant more for live
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[1] <a href="https://support.google.com/plus/answer/2553119?hl=en" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">https://support.google.com/plus/answer/2553119?hl=en</span></a><o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">I tried to pare down the survey in the way along the lines that Jackie had suggested. Here are the results:</span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iVhjIQ1Rhd-i6HuAB9hvuERQF_x78giOiJsSRhbuCWk/edit" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: purple;">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iVhjIQ1Rhd-i6HuAB9hvuERQF_x78giOiJsSRhbuCWk/edit</span></a><br>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">1. I pared the questions down to about 1 1/2 pages and added a small introduction.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">2. I tried to combine questions as much as possible and ask them more indirectly. For example, I asked "" for both of these:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> -Cloud End Users - How do you know how your applications/services are doing? How do you know if there is a problem?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">-Cloud Operators - Where and how do you learn about new releases and feature improvements to OpenStack (or cloud tech overall)</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Hopefully, the role of the user will make the right areas to probe obvious.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br>
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Portfolio:</span><a href="http://pokgsa.ibm.com/gsa/pokgsa/home/j/a/jacalcat/public/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: purple;">http://pokgsa.ibm.com/gsa/pokgsa/home/j/a/jacalcat/public/</span></a><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><br>
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<span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);">Cc: </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Liz Blanchard <<a href="mailto:lsurette@redhat.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">lsurette@redhat.com</span></a>>,
"Gallagher, Phyllis" <<a href="mailto:phyllis.gallagher@hp.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">phyllis.gallagher@hp.com</span></a>>, "Kruithof, Piet" <<a href="mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com</span></a>>,
Ju Lim <<a href="mailto:julim@redhat.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">julim@redhat.com</span></a>>, "Meingast, Melissa" <<a href="mailto:Melissa.Meingast@hp.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">Melissa.Meingast@hp.com</span></a>>,
"<a href="mailto:openstack-personas@lists.openstack.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">openstack-personas@lists.openstack.org</span></a>" <<a href="mailto:openstack-personas@lists.openstack.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">openstack-personas@lists.openstack.org</span></a>>,
Thuy T Duong/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, Michelle Peterson <<a href="mailto:michelle.peterson@rackspace.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">michelle.peterson@rackspace.com</span></a>></span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Thanks for doing this! I agree with starting with the environment to provide context. And the flow is much better. But I think there are still too many questions for an interviewer to get through.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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My recommendation would be to have 4-6 very high level questions. For each of those questions, we have a cheat sheet in front of us with a variety of probing questions that will get us to what we want to learn. A lot of times the interviewee will answer those
questions on their own, but if they are going in a direction that isn’t helpful, we can use the cheat sheet to keep them on topic. That way we leave opportunity for discovering things we didn’t think to ask and avoid accidentally leading the interviewee to
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The first section of this article describes this method - <a href="http://lorrainepaterson.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/user-research-and-persona-creation-part-1-data-gathering-methods/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">http://lorrainepaterson.wordpress.com/2010/07/30/user-research-and-persona-creation-part-1-data-gathering-methods/</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Also, I still don’t have a good understanding of the goals of this study and what we want the resulting personas to do for us - I think this is making things more difficult for the group, as there is no priority on which topics to cover. I made a pretty lame
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If people agree with this approach, I have some time today to work on it, or anyone else can jump in.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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PS - Sorry everyone for opening the can of worms at the last minute. I meant to look at this last Wednesday and completely forgot.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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On Mar 25, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Jeffrey A Calcaterra <<a href="mailto:jacalcat@us.ibm.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">jacalcat@us.ibm.com</span></a>> wrote:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Here is yet another version...</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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I had started with my own arrangement of questions yesterday that I was going to send out and blended together what Jacki had done as well. I got the questions down by about a half a page.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br>
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A few notes:</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"><br>
1. I started the interview with the environment, which I think is very helpful because that provides much of the context for the subsequent discussion.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
2. I tried to combine and remove redundant questions when possible and I put those at the end with comments. Questions that I added are in blue.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
3. I added all the Role-specific questions in green.</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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To me, this seems to flow better as I imagine interviewing a participant. Any feedback?</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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IBM SmartCloud Entry User Experience Design and Research<br>
STG UI Patent Board Chair<br>
email:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:jacalcat@us.ibm.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: purple;">jacalcat@us.ibm.com</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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From: </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">Jacki Bauer <</span><a href="mailto:jacki.bauer@RACKSPACE.COM" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: purple;">jacki.bauer@RACKSPACE.COM</span></a><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">></span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);"><br>
To: </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">"Kruithof, Piet" <</span><a href="mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: purple;">pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">>,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="color: rgb(95, 95, 95);"><br>
Cc: </span>"Gallagher, Phyllis" <</span><a href="mailto:phyllis.gallagher@hp.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: purple;">phyllis.gallagher@hp.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">>,
"</span><a href="mailto:openstack-personas@lists.openstack.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: purple;">openstack-personas@lists.openstack.org</span></a><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">"
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Liz Blanchard <</span><a href="mailto:lsurette@redhat.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: purple;">lsurette@redhat.com</span></a><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">></span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);"><br>
Date: </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">03/24/2014 01:02 PM</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);"><br>
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In an attempt to consolidate questions, I went ahead and sorted all of the questions by theme. Almost all the questions are variations on the following:<o:p></o:p></div>
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Here’s the document with the sorted questions -<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E4eujvFhtvBBAuADT9OymXNCkczDV_BpUlje-4Dm2-U/edit?usp=sharing" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E4eujvFhtvBBAuADT9OymXNCkczDV_BpUlje-4Dm2-U/edit?usp=sharing</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Obviously we won’t ask people these vague questions, but do the categories represent what we want to learn? Can we eliminate any? Maybe we can come up with one or two main questions per category and leave the others as sub-questions/conversation helpers.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Feel free to leave comments or vote on priorities in the Google doc.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:27 AM, Kruithof, Piet <<a href="mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: purple;">pieter.c.kruithof-jr@hp.com</span></a>> wrote:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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Here is a link to the interview questions for the OpenStack Personas.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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One word of warning – there are a lot of questions! It feels like we may need to reduce it a bit or consolidate some of the questions.</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(95, 95, 95);"><br>
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