[Openstack-personas] Persona meeting in Austin
Dave Neary
dneary at redhat.com
Thu Aug 27 20:03:21 UTC 2015
Hi Piet,
Sure! Links here:
Videos & opensource.com article:
http://opensource.com/business/14/5/personas-define-openstack-users
Slides:
"Personas: 6 months on" (Hong Kong presentation):
http://www.slideshare.net/nearyd/personas-28030724
"Using personas to target users (Portland? presentation): PDF slides
attached
Thanks,
Dave
On 08/27/2015 03:19 PM, Kruithof, Piet wrote:
> Good question. Does anyone know if it’s even possible to migrate users?
>
> Dave,
>
> Do you mind distributing your deck on personas? I seem to recall you
> presenting them at an OpenStack summit a few years back.
>
> Piet
>
>
> Piet Kruithof
> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>
>
> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat and
> wrong.”
>
> H L Menken
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/27/15, 1:02 PM, "Dave Neary" <dneary at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I for one would like to continue following the discussion - if the list
>> name changes, would you re-subscribe persona list members automatically?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave.
>>
>> On 08/27/2015 01:23 PM, Ju Lim wrote:
>>> +1 to having an OpenStack UX mailing list, and then having something
>>> [$subject] in the email reference for the topic that is being discussed,
>>> much like the openstack-dev mailing list.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ju
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> If personas will be maintained by the UX team moving forward then I
>>> think it makes sense to collapse the ML.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shamail
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > One other question and then I’ll stop…
>>> >
>>> > Should we remove the OpenStack personas email list and create a
>>> general UX
>>> > email list?
>>> >
>>> > Piet
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Piet Kruithof
>>> > Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>> > PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>> neat and
>>> > wrong.”
>>> >
>>> > H L Menken
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 8/27/15, 9:27 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Apologies - the question was intended for Aminah.
>>> >>
>>> >> MustŠgetŠcoffee...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Piet Kruithof
>>> >> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>> >> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>> neat and
>>> >> wrong.²
>>> >>
>>> >> H L Menken
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> On 8/27/15, 9:23 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> BTW. Hayat (Intel Open Source UX) is interested in conducting
>>> a series
>>> >>> of interviews to understand the installation experience for
>>> OpenStack.
>>> >>> Where you or someone in your organization interested in
>>> participating? I
>>> >>> imagine the interview would last no more than an hour.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>> neat and
>>> >>> wrong.²
>>> >>>
>>> >>> H L Menken
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: "Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>"
>>> >>> <Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>>
>>> >>> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM
>>> >>> To: "julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>"
>>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>, Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>
>>> >>> Cc: "itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>"
>>> >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>,
>>> >>> "lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>"
>>> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>,
>>> >>> "lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>"
>>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>,
>>> >>> "gregh at us.ibm.com
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>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>"
>>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>,
>>> >>> "hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
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>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>"
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>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>,
>>> >>> "jacalcat at us.ibm.com
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>>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>"
>>> >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>,
>>> >>> "sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>"
>>> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>>,
>>> >>> "openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>>
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas
>>> @lists.o
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
>>> >>> p
>>> >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>"
>>> >>> <openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>>
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas
>>> @lists.o
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
>>> >>> p
>>> >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>>
>>> >>> Subject: RE: Persona meeting in Austin
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks, yes, please include me. MUCH appreciated!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Aminah Nailor
>>> >>> Phone 404.973.7729 <tel:404.973.7729>
>>> >>> Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: Ju Lim [mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>]
>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:14 AM
>>> >>> To: Kruithof, Piet
>>> >>> Cc: Shamail Tahir; Liz Blanchard; Stan Haozhe Li; Greg
>>> Hintermeister;
>>> >>> Benchenaa, Hayat; Jeffrey A Calcaterra; Serena Doyle;
>>> >>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>>
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas
>>> @lists.op
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.op>
>>> >>> e
>>> >>> nstack.org <http://nstack.org>>; Nailor, Aminah
>>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Including Aminah Nailor as she has expressed interest in
>>> helping in this
>>> >>> effort as well as the OpenStack Personas mailing list so that
>>> others are
>>> >>> aware of this effort and can chime in if they wish to
>>> contribute.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Ju
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>> wrote:
>>> >>> Hiya,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> My manager still needs to review (scrub) the HP cloud roles
>>> document.
>>> >>> However, I did want to point yo at some additional resources:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Personas developed by the UX working group (in progress,
>>> draft):
>>> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Personas
>>> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PersonaPotentialRoles
>>> >>>
>>> >>> One of the approaches was to organize the personas as
>>> ecosystems that
>>> >>> shape user roles and goals. This was driven by one of the
>>> findings that
>>> >>> attitudes about OpenStack vary significantly based on the type
>>> of
>>> >>> business.
>>> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Personas
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Data collected from the persona interviews about a year ago:
>>> >>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CslXeXMUDNv1DsBEVSZWJbGmPnejJW-Pz
>>> >>> k
>>> >>> IWege5-ZA/edit?usp=sharing
>>> >>>
>>> >>> A couple of other things. We could potentially decide that
>>> there is
>>> >>> enough data and its just a matter of refining and creating a
>>> presentation
>>> >>> around the personas. If that¹s the case, we could consider
>>> pivoting and
>>> >>> using the time in Austin as a strategy session for community UX
>>> work.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>> neat and
>>> >>> wrong.²
>>> >>>
>>> >>> H L Menken
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: Shamail Tahir
>>> >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>><mailto:itzshamail at gmai
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmai>
>>> >>> l
>>> >>> .com<mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>>
>>> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:30 PM
>>> >>> To: Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>>> >>> Cc: Liz Blanchard
>>> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>>> >>> o
>>> >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
>>> Ju Lim
>>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>>> >>> :
>>> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>, Stan Haozhe Li
>>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>> >>> s
>>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
>>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>>> >>> :
>>> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa,
>>> Hayat"
>>> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
>>> >>> Calcaterra
>>> >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
>>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
>>> >>> o
>>> >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
>>> Serena Doyle
>>> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>>> >>> l
>>> >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi everyone,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks for letting me participate in this working session.
>>> Piet and I
>>> >>> met at the operators summit (during the product WG session) and
>>> connected
>>> >>> on this topic since the Product WG is writing user stories to
>>> discuss
>>> >>> features/functionality. As a part of the user story, we have
>>> to specify
>>> >>> actors/personas and, currently, we have not defined any
>>> standardized
>>> >>> personas. I look forward to working with this team and being
>>> able to
>>> >>> share the work done here with the Product WG team.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I will most likely have to attend remotely but I will try my
>>> best to be
>>> >>> there in person if possible.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Here is a sample user story currently in our repository:
>>> >>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/user-stor
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> es/draft/rollingupgrades.rst
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Shamail Tahir
>>> >>> t: @ShamailXD
>>> >>> tz: Eastern Time
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Kruithof, Piet
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> As an aside, I went ahead and scrubbed HP¹s cloud roles
>>> document but
>>> >>> still need to have my manager review it. Hopefully by end of
>>> week.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>> neat and
>>> >>> wrong.²
>>> >>>
>>> >>> H L Menken
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: Liz Blanchard
>>> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>>> >>> o
>>> >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>
>>> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:06 AM
>>> >>> To: Ju Lim
>>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>>> >>> :
>>> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
>>> >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li
>>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>> >>> s
>>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
>>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>>> >>> :
>>> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa,
>>> Hayat"
>>> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
>>> >>> Calcaterra
>>> >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
>>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
>>> >>> o
>>> >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
>>> Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>,
>>> Serena
>>> >>> Doyle
>>> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>>> >>> l
>>> >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi all,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks for including me in the conversation. I won't be able to
>>> travel
>>> >>> this year so I won't be able to attend this in person
>>> unfortunately. I
>>> >>> know that F2F is much preferred for these types of activities,
>>> so I look
>>> >>> forward to hearing how it goes and hope to be able to learn
>>> from the work
>>> >>> you all do and apply it while designing!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best,
>>> >>> Liz
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ju Lim
>>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>>> >>> :
>>> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
>>> >>> Hi Stan et al:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I agree F2F is preferable; however, with the upcoming OpenStack
>>> Summit in
>>> >>> Tokyo, I'm trying to reduce traveling that month (as it puts a
>>> lot of
>>> >>> burden on my family).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That being said, I'd be happy to participate and collaborate
>>> remotely.
>>> >>> Additionally, we might be able to get more participation if we
>>> provide
>>> >>> remote collaboration capabilities -- if we're interested in
>>> additional
>>> >>> folks joining in this effort.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Ju
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Stan Haozhe Li
>>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>> >>> s
>>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Ju,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Face to face collaboration would be ideal as we have
>>> collaborative spaces
>>> >>> designed for design collaborations.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> But we can also use tools to facilitate remote collaboration,
>>> like
>>> >>> Mura.ly for post-it sessions, Ziggy Cameras to project sketches
>>> over
>>> >>> video streams, etc.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -Stan
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [Inactive hide details for Ju Lim ---08/26/2015 10:34:59
>>> AM---Hi Piet:
>>> >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be w]Ju
>>> Lim
>>> >>> ---08/26/2015 10:34:59 AM---Hi Piet: I'm indifferent about the
>>> dates
>>> >>> other than it should be way before the
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: Ju Lim
>>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>>> >>> :
>>> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
>>> >>> To: "Kruithof, Piet"
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>>> >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
>>> >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS, Jeffrey A
>>> >>> Calcaterra/Raleigh/IBM at IBMUS, Liz Blanchard
>>> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>>> >>> o
>>> >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
>>> Serena Doyle
>>> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>>> >>> l
>>> >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>,
>>> "Benchenaa, Hayat"
>>> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>
>>> >>> Date: 08/26/2015 10:34 AM
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>> >>> ________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Piet:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be way
>>> before the
>>> >>> Tokyo Summit. I'm not sure about the travel but can definitely
>>> do it
>>> >>> remotely via video conferencing like last time. Any thoughts
>>> about
>>> >>> remote participation?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thoughts?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Ju
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ccing a few folks (who may be attending)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ju, Liz, Jeff, Serena and Hyat,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> See below.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The meeting will be in Austin. Do you have a preference? I
>>> would like
>>> >>> to do Option #3.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>> neat and
>>> >>> wrong.²
>>> >>>
>>> >>> H L Menken
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
>>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>> >>> s
>>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>>> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM
>>> >>> To: Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>>> <mailto:pie>
>>> >>> t
>>> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>>> >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
>>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>>> >>> :
>>> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
>>> >>> o
>>> >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It's actually 5th and 6th of October instead of 2nd and 3rd.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> A couple options are:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1. Keep the workshop to be 2 days, and stay late during these
>>> two days.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2. We can schedule the workshop from 4th to 6th, so that we
>>> have three
>>> >>> days, but this would require people to come on Sunday.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 3. We can use the collaborative space on 5th and 6th, and use a
>>> different
>>> >>> space on 7th, but this would require we move all artifacts
>>> generated in
>>> >>> the workshop late on 6th.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -Stan
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015
>>> 08:17:08
>>> >>> PM---What do you think? I¹m kind of torn because we may
>>> nee]"Kruithof,
>>> >>> Piet" ---08/25/2015 08:17:08 PM---What do you think? I¹m kind
>>> of torn
>>> >>> because we may need more than two days to work on the personas.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>>> <mailto:pie>
>>> >>> t
>>> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>>> >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS
>>> >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
>>> >>> Date: 08/25/2015 08:17 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What do you think? I¹m kind of torn because we may need more
>>> than two
>>> >>> days to work on the personas. However, the 12-14th is a bit
>>> close to the
>>> >>> summit and won¹t leave us a lot of time to prepare the
>>> personas.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>> neat and
>>> >>> wrong.²
>>> >>>
>>> >>> H L Menken
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
>>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>> >>> s
>>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>
>>> >>> <
>>> >>> mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>>> >>> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 2:07 PM
>>> >>> To: Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>>> <mailto:pie>
>>> >>> t
>>> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter
>>> <mailto:pieter>.
>>> >>> c
>>> >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.k>
>>> >>> r
>>> >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>>> >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
>>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>>> >>> :
>>> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
>>> >>> o
>>> >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mail
>>> >>> t
>>> >>> o:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:o%3Agregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Piet,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks for reaching out, I was just about to email you on this.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I've been trying to secure rooms for the persona workshop, and
>>> initially
>>> >>> I try to book the collaborative spaces with movable whiteboards
>>> that we
>>> >>> have in the design studio. However, due to limited availability
>>> and vast
>>> >>> demand, the earliest days these spaces would be available are:
>>> 2nd and
>>> >>> 3rd October and 12 to 14 October.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Would these two times work?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm still looking for rooms at other buildings that might be
>>> available
>>> >>> earlier, but I think these design spaces are ideal for a
>>> persona
>>> >>> workshop.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -Stan
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015
>>> 02:54:26
>>> >>> PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.]"Kruithof, Piet"
>>> ---08/25/2015
>>> >>> 02:54:26 PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
>>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>>> <mailto:pie>
>>> >>> t
>>> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>>> >>> .
>>> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter
>>> <mailto:pieter>.
>>> >>> c
>>> >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.k>
>>> >>> r
>>> >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>>> >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
>>> >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
>>> >>> Date: 08/25/2015 02:54 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Persona meeting in Austin
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ________________________________
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi Stan | Hi Greg,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hope all is well.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I was wondering whether you have thought about the proposed
>>> persona
>>> >>> workshop. Where you still interested in hosting in Austin? If
>>> so, what
>>> >>> dates did you have in mind?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>> neat and
>>> >>> wrong.²
>>> >>>
>>> >>> H L Menken
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> [attachment "graycol.gif" deleted by Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM]
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Ju Lim
>>> >>> Red Hat
>>> >>> Office:
>>> >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
>>> <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
>>> <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422>>>
>>> >>> Mobile:
>>> >>> 781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323
>>> <tel:781-507-1323>><tel:781-507-1323
>>> <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323>>>
>>> >>> Email:
>>> >>> julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
>>> >>> j
>>> >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
>>> >>> IRC: julim
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Ju Lim
>>> >>> Red Hat
>>> >>> Office:
>>> >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
>>> <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
>>> <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422>>
>>> >>> Mobile:
>>> >>>
>>> 781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323>>
>>> >>> Email:
>>> >>> julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
>>> >>> j
>>> >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
>>> >>> IRC: julim
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Ju Lim
>>> >>> Red Hat
>>> >>> Office: 978-399-0422
>>> >>> Mobile: 781-507-1323
>>> >>> Email: julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>
>>> >>> IRC: julim
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> openstack-personas mailing list
>>> >>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-personas
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > openstack-personas mailing list
>>> > openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org>
>>> >
>>>
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-personas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ju Lim
>>> Red Hat
>>> Office: 978-399-0422
>>> Mobile: 781-507-1323
>>> Email: julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>
>>> IRC: julim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> openstack-personas mailing list
>>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-personas
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Neary - NFV/SDN Community Strategy
>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
>> Ph: +1-978-399-2182 / Cell: +1-978-799-3338
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