[Openstack-personas] Persona meeting in Austin

Shamail itzshamail at gmail.com
Thu Aug 27 19:30:19 UTC 2015 

Hi,

I don't know if migration is possible but there are three options:

1) the moderator might be able to see subscribers and manually register them on the new mailing list.

2) Send an email to personas ML 30 days, 14 days, and 1 day before the list is closed.

3) Leave personas ML alive and subscribe the list address to the new UX list.

Option #2 is probably the cleanest.

Thanks,
Shamail 



> On Aug 27, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Kruithof, Piet <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com> wrote:
> 
> Good question.   Does anyone know if it’s even possible to migrate users?
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Do you mind distributing your deck on personas?  I seem to recall you
> presenting them at an OpenStack summit a few years back.
> 
> Piet
> 
> 
> Piet Kruithof
> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> 
> 
> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat and
> wrong.”
> 
> H L Menken
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/27/15, 1:02 PM, "Dave Neary" <dneary at redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I for one would like to continue following the discussion - if the list
>> name changes, would you re-subscribe persona list members automatically?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dave.
>> 
>>> On 08/27/2015 01:23 PM, Ju Lim wrote:
>>> +1 to having an OpenStack UX mailing list, and then having something
>>> [$subject] in the email reference for the topic that is being discussed,
>>> much like the openstack-dev mailing list.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ju
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Hi,
>>> 
>>>    If personas will be maintained by the UX team moving forward then I
>>>    think it makes sense to collapse the ML.
>>> 
>>>    Thanks,
>>>    Shamail
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>>>    <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>>>    wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> One other question and then I’ll stop…
>>>> 
>>>> Should we remove the OpenStack personas email list and create a
>>>    general UX
>>>> email list?
>>>> 
>>>> Piet
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Piet Kruithof
>>>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>>    neat and
>>>> wrong.”
>>>> 
>>>> H L Menken
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/27/15, 9:27 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
>>>    <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>>>    wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apologies - the question was intended for Aminah.
>>>>> 
>>>>> MustŠgetŠcoffee...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Piet Kruithof
>>>>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>>>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>>    neat and
>>>>> wrong.²
>>>>> 
>>>>> H L Menken
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/27/15, 9:23 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
>>>    <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>>>    wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW.  Hayat (Intel Open Source UX) is interested in conducting
>>>    a series
>>>>>> of interviews to understand the installation experience for
>>>    OpenStack.
>>>>>> Where you or someone in your organization interested in
>>>    participating?  I
>>>>>> imagine the interview would last no more than an hour.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>>>>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>>    neat and
>>>>>> wrong.²
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> H L Menken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: "Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>>    <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>"
>>>>>> <Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>>    <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM
>>>>>> To: "julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>"
>>>>>> <julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>, Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>
>>>>>> Cc: "itzshamail at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>"
>>>>>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>,
>>>>>> "lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>"
>>>>>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>,
>>>>>> "lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>"
>>>>>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>,
>>>>>> "gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>"
>>>>>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>,
>>>>>> "hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>"
>>>>>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>,
>>>>>> "jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>"
>>>>>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>,
>>>>>> "sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>"
>>>>>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>>,
>>>>>> "openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>> 
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas
>>> @lists.o
>>>    <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
>>>>>> p
>>>>>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>"
>>>>>> <openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>> 
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas
>>> @lists.o
>>>    <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
>>>>>> p
>>>>>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>>
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Persona meeting in Austin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks, yes, please include me.  MUCH appreciated!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Aminah Nailor
>>>>>> Phone 404.973.7729 <tel:404.973.7729>
>>>>>> Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>>    <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Ju Lim [mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:14 AM
>>>>>> To: Kruithof, Piet
>>>>>> Cc: Shamail Tahir; Liz Blanchard; Stan Haozhe Li; Greg
>>>    Hintermeister;
>>>>>> Benchenaa, Hayat; Jeffrey A Calcaterra; Serena Doyle;
>>>>>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>> 
>>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas
>>> @lists.op
>>>    <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.op>
>>>>>> e
>>>>>> nstack.org <http://nstack.org>>; Nailor, Aminah
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Including Aminah Nailor as she has expressed interest in
>>>    helping in this
>>>>>> effort as well as the OpenStack Personas mailing list so that
>>>    others are
>>>>>> aware of this effort and can chime in if they wish to
>>> contribute.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ju
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hiya,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My manager still needs to review (scrub) the HP cloud roles
>>>    document.
>>>>>> However, I did want to point yo at some additional resources:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Personas developed by the UX working group (in progress,
>>> draft):
>>>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Personas
>>>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PersonaPotentialRoles
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One of the approaches was to organize the personas as
>>>    ecosystems that
>>>>>> shape user roles and goals.  This was driven by one of the
>>>    findings that
>>>>>> attitudes about OpenStack vary significantly based on the type
>>> of
>>>>>> business.
>>>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Personas
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Data collected from the persona interviews about a year ago:
>>> 
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CslXeXMUDNv1DsBEVSZWJbGmPnejJW-Pz
>>>>>> k
>>>>>> IWege5-ZA/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A couple of other things.  We could potentially decide that
>>>    there is
>>>>>> enough data and its just a matter of refining and creating a
>>>    presentation
>>>>>> around the personas.  If that¹s the case, we could consider
>>>    pivoting and
>>>>>> using the time in Austin as a strategy session for community UX
>>>    work.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>>>>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>>    neat and
>>>>>> wrong.²
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> H L Menken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Shamail Tahir
>>>>>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>>>    <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>><mailto:itzshamail at gmai
>>>    <mailto:itzshamail at gmai>
>>>>>> l
>>>>>> .com<mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:30 PM
>>>>>> To: Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Liz Blanchard
>>>>>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
>>>    Ju Lim
>>>>>> <julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>, Stan Haozhe Li
>>>>>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>>>>> s
>>>>>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
>>>>>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa,
>>> Hayat"
>>>>>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
>>>>>> Calcaterra
>>>>>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
>>>    Serena Doyle
>>>>>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>>>>>> l
>>>>>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for letting me participate in this working session.
>>>    Piet and I
>>>>>> met at the operators summit (during the product WG session) and
>>>    connected
>>>>>> on this topic since the Product WG is writing user stories to
>>>    discuss
>>>>>> features/functionality.  As a part of the user story, we have
>>>    to specify
>>>>>> actors/personas and, currently, we have not defined any
>>>    standardized
>>>>>> personas.  I look forward to working with this team and being
>>>    able to
>>>>>> share the work done here with the Product WG team.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will most likely have to attend remotely but I will try my
>>>    best to be
>>>>>> there in person if possible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here is a sample user story currently in our repository:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/user-stor
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> es/draft/rollingupgrades.rst
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Shamail Tahir
>>>>>> t: @ShamailXD
>>>>>> tz: Eastern Time
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Kruithof, Piet
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>>>    wrote:
>>>>>> As an aside,  I went ahead and scrubbed HP¹s cloud roles
>>>    document but
>>>>>> still need to have my manager review it.  Hopefully by end of
>>> week.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>>>>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>>    neat and
>>>>>> wrong.²
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> H L Menken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Liz Blanchard
>>>>>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:06 AM
>>>>>> To: Ju Lim
>>>>>> <julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li
>>>>>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>>>>> s
>>>>>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
>>>>>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa,
>>> Hayat"
>>>>>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
>>>>>> Calcaterra
>>>>>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
>>>    <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
>>>    Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>,
>>>    Serena
>>>>>> Doyle
>>>>>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>>>>>> l
>>>>>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for including me in the conversation. I won't be able to
>>>    travel
>>>>>> this year so I won't be able to attend this in person
>>>    unfortunately. I
>>>>>> know that F2F is much preferred for these types of activities,
>>>    so I look
>>>>>> forward to hearing how it goes and hope to be able to learn
>>>    from the work
>>>>>> you all do and apply it while designing!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Liz
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ju Lim
>>>>>> <julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Stan et al:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree F2F is preferable; however, with the upcoming OpenStack
>>>    Summit in
>>>>>> Tokyo, I'm trying to reduce traveling that month (as it puts a
>>>    lot of
>>>>>> burden on my family).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That being said, I'd be happy to participate and collaborate
>>>    remotely.
>>>>>> Additionally, we might be able to get more participation if we
>>>    provide
>>>>>> remote collaboration capabilities -- if we're interested in
>>>    additional
>>>>>> folks joining in this effort.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ju
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Stan Haozhe Li
>>>>>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>>>>> s
>>>>>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Ju,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Face to face collaboration would be ideal as we have
>>>    collaborative spaces
>>>>>> designed for design collaborations.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But we can also use tools to facilitate remote collaboration,
>>> like
>>>>>> Mura.ly for post-it sessions, Ziggy Cameras to project sketches
>>>    over
>>>>>> video streams, etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Stan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [Inactive hide details for Ju Lim ---08/26/2015 10:34:59
>>>    AM---Hi Piet:
>>>>>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be w]Ju
>>> Lim
>>>>>> ---08/26/2015 10:34:59 AM---Hi Piet: I'm indifferent about the
>>>    dates
>>>>>> other than it should be way before the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Ju Lim
>>>>>> <julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
>>>>>> To: "Kruithof, Piet"
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
>>>>>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS, Jeffrey A
>>>>>> Calcaterra/Raleigh/IBM at IBMUS, Liz Blanchard
>>>>>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>>>    <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
>>>    Serena Doyle
>>>>>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>>>>>> l
>>>>>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>,
>>>    "Benchenaa, Hayat"
>>>>>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>>>    <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>
>>>>>> Date: 08/26/2015 10:34 AM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Piet:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be way
>>>    before the
>>>>>> Tokyo Summit.  I'm not sure about the travel but can definitely
>>>    do it
>>>>>> remotely via video conferencing like last time.  Any thoughts
>>> about
>>>>>> remote participation?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ju
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>>>    wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ccing a few folks (who may be attending)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ju, Liz, Jeff, Serena and Hyat,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> See below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The meeting will be in Austin.  Do you have a preference?  I
>>>    would like
>>>>>> to do Option #3.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>>>>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>>    neat and
>>>>>> wrong.²
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> H L Menken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
>>>>>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>>>>> s
>>>>>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM
>>>>>> To: Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>>>    <mailto:pie>
>>>>>> t
>>>>>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
>>>>>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's actually 5th and 6th of October instead of 2nd and 3rd.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A couple options are:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Keep the workshop to be 2 days, and stay late during these
>>>    two days.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2. We can schedule the workshop from 4th to 6th, so that we
>>>    have three
>>>>>> days, but this would require people to come on Sunday.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3. We can use the collaborative space on 5th and 6th, and use a
>>>    different
>>>>>> space on 7th, but this would require we move all artifacts
>>>    generated in
>>>>>> the workshop late on 6th.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Stan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015
>>> 08:17:08
>>>>>> PM---What do you think?  I¹m kind of torn because we may
>>>    nee]"Kruithof,
>>>>>> Piet" ---08/25/2015 08:17:08 PM---What do you think?  I¹m kind
>>>    of torn
>>>>>> because we may need more than two days to work on the personas.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>>>    <mailto:pie>
>>>>>> t
>>>>>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>>>>>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS
>>>>>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
>>>>>> Date: 08/25/2015 08:17 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What do you think?  I¹m kind of torn because we may need more
>>>    than two
>>>>>> days to work on the personas.  However, the 12-14th is a bit
>>>    close to the
>>>>>> summit and won¹t leave us a lot of time to prepare the
>>> personas.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>>>>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>>    neat and
>>>>>> wrong.²
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> H L Menken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
>>>>>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>>>>>> s
>>>>>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 2:07 PM
>>>>>> To: Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>>>    <mailto:pie>
>>>>>> t
>>>>>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter
>>> <mailto:pieter>.
>>>>>> c
>>>>>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.k>
>>>>>> r
>>>>>> uithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>>>>>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
>>>>>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
>>>>>> o
>>>>>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mail
>>>>>> t
>>>>>> o:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:o%3Agregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>>>    <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Piet,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for reaching out, I was just about to email you on this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've been trying to secure rooms for the persona workshop, and
>>>    initially
>>>>>> I try to book the collaborative spaces with movable whiteboards
>>>    that we
>>>>>> have in the design studio. However, due to limited availability
>>>    and vast
>>>>>> demand, the earliest days these spaces would be available are:
>>>    2nd and
>>>>>> 3rd October and 12 to 14 October.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would these two times work?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm still looking for rooms at other buildings that might be
>>>    available
>>>>>> earlier, but I think these design spaces are ideal for a
>>> persona
>>>>>> workshop.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Stan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015
>>> 02:54:26
>>>>>> PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.]"Kruithof, Piet"
>>>    ---08/25/2015
>>>>>> 02:54:26 PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
>>>>>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>>>>>> i
>>>>>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> 
>>> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>>>    <mailto:pie>
>>>>>> t
>>>>>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter 
>>> <mailto:pieter>.
>>>>>> c
>>>>>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.k>
>>>>>> r
>>>>>> uithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>>    <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>>>>>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
>>>>>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
>>>>>> Date: 08/25/2015 02:54 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Persona meeting in Austin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Stan | Hi Greg,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope all is well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was wondering whether you have thought about the proposed
>>> persona
>>>>>> workshop.  Where you still interested in hosting in Austin?  If
>>>    so, what
>>>>>> dates did you have in mind?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Piet Kruithof
>>>>>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>>>>>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>>>    neat and
>>>>>> wrong.²
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> H L Menken
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [attachment "graycol.gif" deleted by Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ju Lim
>>>>>> Red Hat
>>>>>> Office:
>>>>>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
>>>    <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
>>>    <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422>>>
>>>>>> Mobile:
>>>>>> 781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323
>>>    <tel:781-507-1323>><tel:781-507-1323
>>>    <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323>>>
>>>>>> Email:
>>>>>> julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
>>>>>> j
>>>>>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
>>>>>> IRC: julim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ju Lim
>>>>>> Red Hat
>>>>>> Office:
>>>>>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
>>>    <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
>>>    <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422>>
>>>>>> Mobile:
>>> 781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323>>
>>>>>> Email:
>>>>>> julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
>>>>>> j
>>>>>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
>>>>>> IRC: julim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ju Lim
>>>>>> Red Hat
>>>>>> Office: 978-399-0422
>>>>>> Mobile: 781-507-1323
>>>>>> Email: julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>>>    <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>
>>>>>> IRC: julim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> openstack-personas mailing list
>>>>>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>>    <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org>
>>> 
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-personas
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>    <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org>
>>> 
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-personas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Ju Lim
>>> Red Hat
>>> Office: 978-399-0422
>>> Mobile: 781-507-1323
>>> Email: julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>
>>> IRC: julim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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