[Openstack-personas] Persona meeting in Austin

Dave Neary dneary at redhat.com
Thu Aug 27 19:02:57 UTC 2015


Hi,

I for one would like to continue following the discussion - if the list 
name changes, would you re-subscribe persona list members automatically?

Thanks,
Dave.

On 08/27/2015 01:23 PM, Ju Lim wrote:
> +1 to having an OpenStack UX mailing list, and then having something
> [$subject] in the email reference for the topic that is being discussed,
> much like the openstack-dev mailing list.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Ju
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com
> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     If personas will be maintained by the UX team moving forward then I
>     think it makes sense to collapse the ML.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Shamail
>
>
>
>      > On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>     <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>     wrote:
>      >
>      > One other question and then I’ll stop…
>      >
>      > Should we remove the OpenStack personas email list and create a
>     general UX
>      > email list?
>      >
>      > Piet
>      >
>      >
>      > Piet Kruithof
>      > Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>      > PTL, OpenStack UX project
>      >
>      >
>      > "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>     neat and
>      > wrong.”
>      >
>      > H L Menken
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >> On 8/27/15, 9:27 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
>     <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>     wrote:
>      >>
>      >> Apologies - the question was intended for Aminah.
>      >>
>      >> MustŠgetŠcoffee...
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Piet Kruithof
>      >> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>      >> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>     neat and
>      >> wrong.²
>      >>
>      >> H L Menken
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>> On 8/27/15, 9:23 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
>     <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>     wrote:
>      >>>
>      >>> BTW.  Hayat (Intel Open Source UX) is interested in conducting
>     a series
>      >>> of interviews to understand the installation experience for
>     OpenStack.
>      >>> Where you or someone in your organization interested in
>     participating?  I
>      >>> imagine the interview would last no more than an hour.
>      >>>
>      >>> Cheers,
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet Kruithof
>      >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>      >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>      >>>
>      >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>     neat and
>      >>> wrong.²
>      >>>
>      >>> H L Menken
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> From: "Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>     <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>     <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>"
>      >>> <Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>     <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>     <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>>
>      >>> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM
>      >>> To: "julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>"
>      >>> <julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>, Piet Kruithof
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>
>      >>> Cc: "itzshamail at gmail.com
>     <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>     <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>"
>      >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
>     <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>     <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>,
>      >>> "lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>"
>      >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>,
>      >>> "lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>"
>      >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>,
>      >>> "gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>"
>      >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>,
>      >>> "hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>"
>      >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>,
>      >>> "jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>"
>      >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>,
>      >>> "sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>"
>      >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>>,
>      >>> "openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>     <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o
>     <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
>      >>> p
>      >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>"
>      >>> <openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>     <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o
>     <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
>      >>> p
>      >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>>
>      >>> Subject: RE: Persona meeting in Austin
>      >>>
>      >>> Thanks, yes, please include me.  MUCH appreciated!
>      >>>
>      >>> Aminah Nailor
>      >>> Phone 404.973.7729 <tel:404.973.7729>
>      >>> Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>     <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>     <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>
>      >>>
>      >>> From: Ju Lim [mailto:julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>]
>      >>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:14 AM
>      >>> To: Kruithof, Piet
>      >>> Cc: Shamail Tahir; Liz Blanchard; Stan Haozhe Li; Greg
>     Hintermeister;
>      >>> Benchenaa, Hayat; Jeffrey A Calcaterra; Serena Doyle;
>      >>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>     <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.op
>     <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.op>
>      >>> e
>      >>> nstack.org <http://nstack.org>>; Nailor, Aminah
>      >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>      >>>
>      >>> Including Aminah Nailor as she has expressed interest in
>     helping in this
>      >>> effort as well as the OpenStack Personas mailing list so that
>     others are
>      >>> aware of this effort and can chime in if they wish to contribute.
>      >>>
>      >>> Thanks,
>      >>> Ju
>      >>>
>      >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>> wrote:
>      >>> Hiya,
>      >>>
>      >>> My manager still needs to review (scrub) the HP cloud roles
>     document.
>      >>> However, I did want to point yo at some additional resources:
>      >>>
>      >>> Personas developed by the UX working group (in progress, draft):
>      >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Personas
>      >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PersonaPotentialRoles
>      >>>
>      >>> One of the approaches was to organize the personas as
>     ecosystems that
>      >>> shape user roles and goals.  This was driven by one of the
>     findings that
>      >>> attitudes about OpenStack vary significantly based on the type of
>      >>> business.
>      >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Personas
>      >>>
>      >>> Data collected from the persona interviews about a year ago:
>      >>>
>     https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CslXeXMUDNv1DsBEVSZWJbGmPnejJW-Pz
>      >>> k
>      >>> IWege5-ZA/edit?usp=sharing
>      >>>
>      >>> A couple of other things.  We could potentially decide that
>     there is
>      >>> enough data and its just a matter of refining and creating a
>     presentation
>      >>> around the personas.  If that¹s the case, we could consider
>     pivoting and
>      >>> using the time in Austin as a strategy session for community UX
>     work.
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Cheers,
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet Kruithof
>      >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>      >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>      >>>
>      >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>     neat and
>      >>> wrong.²
>      >>>
>      >>> H L Menken
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> From: Shamail Tahir
>      >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
>     <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>     <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>><mailto:itzshamail at gmai
>     <mailto:itzshamail at gmai>
>      >>> l
>      >>> .com<mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>>
>      >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:30 PM
>      >>> To: Piet Kruithof
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>      >>> i
>      >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>      >>> Cc: Liz Blanchard
>      >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>      >>> o
>      >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
>     Ju Lim
>      >>> <julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>      >>> :
>      >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>, Stan Haozhe Li
>      >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>      >>> s
>      >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
>      >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>      >>> :
>      >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa, Hayat"
>      >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>      >>> .
>      >>> benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
>      >>> Calcaterra
>      >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
>      >>> o
>      >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
>     Serena Doyle
>      >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>      >>> l
>      >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
>      >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>      >>>
>      >>> Hi everyone,
>      >>>
>      >>> Thanks for letting me participate in this working session.
>     Piet and I
>      >>> met at the operators summit (during the product WG session) and
>     connected
>      >>> on this topic since the Product WG is writing user stories to
>     discuss
>      >>> features/functionality.  As a part of the user story, we have
>     to specify
>      >>> actors/personas and, currently, we have not defined any
>     standardized
>      >>> personas.  I look forward to working with this team and being
>     able to
>      >>> share the work done here with the Product WG team.
>      >>>
>      >>> I will most likely have to attend remotely but I will try my
>     best to be
>      >>> there in person if possible.
>      >>>
>      >>> Here is a sample user story currently in our repository:
>      >>>
>     https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/user-stor
>      >>> i
>      >>> es/draft/rollingupgrades.rst
>      >>>
>      >>> --
>      >>> Thanks,
>      >>> Shamail Tahir
>      >>> t: @ShamailXD
>      >>> tz: Eastern Time
>      >>>
>      >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Kruithof, Piet
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>      >>> i
>      >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>     wrote:
>      >>> As an aside,  I went ahead and scrubbed HP¹s cloud roles
>     document but
>      >>> still need to have my manager review it.  Hopefully by end of week.
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet Kruithof
>      >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>      >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>      >>>
>      >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>     neat and
>      >>> wrong.²
>      >>>
>      >>> H L Menken
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> From: Liz Blanchard
>      >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>      >>> o
>      >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>
>      >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:06 AM
>      >>> To: Ju Lim
>      >>> <julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>      >>> :
>      >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
>      >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li
>      >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>      >>> s
>      >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
>      >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>      >>> :
>      >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa, Hayat"
>      >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>      >>> .
>      >>> benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
>      >>> Calcaterra
>      >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
>     <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
>      >>> o
>      >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
>     Piet Kruithof
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>      >>> i
>      >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>,
>     Serena
>      >>> Doyle
>      >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>      >>> l
>      >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
>      >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>      >>>
>      >>> Hi all,
>      >>>
>      >>> Thanks for including me in the conversation. I won't be able to
>     travel
>      >>> this year so I won't be able to attend this in person
>     unfortunately. I
>      >>> know that F2F is much preferred for these types of activities,
>     so I look
>      >>> forward to hearing how it goes and hope to be able to learn
>     from the work
>      >>> you all do and apply it while designing!
>      >>>
>      >>> Best,
>      >>> Liz
>      >>>
>      >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ju Lim
>      >>> <julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>      >>> :
>      >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
>      >>> Hi Stan et al:
>      >>>
>      >>> I agree F2F is preferable; however, with the upcoming OpenStack
>     Summit in
>      >>> Tokyo, I'm trying to reduce traveling that month (as it puts a
>     lot of
>      >>> burden on my family).
>      >>>
>      >>> That being said, I'd be happy to participate and collaborate
>     remotely.
>      >>> Additionally, we might be able to get more participation if we
>     provide
>      >>> remote collaboration capabilities -- if we're interested in
>     additional
>      >>> folks joining in this effort.
>      >>>
>      >>> Thanks,
>      >>> Ju
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Stan Haozhe Li
>      >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>      >>> s
>      >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>> wrote:
>      >>>
>      >>> Hi Ju,
>      >>>
>      >>> Face to face collaboration would be ideal as we have
>     collaborative spaces
>      >>> designed for design collaborations.
>      >>>
>      >>> But we can also use tools to facilitate remote collaboration, like
>      >>> Mura.ly for post-it sessions, Ziggy Cameras to project sketches
>     over
>      >>> video streams, etc.
>      >>>
>      >>> -Stan
>      >>>
>      >>> [Inactive hide details for Ju Lim ---08/26/2015 10:34:59
>     AM---Hi Piet:
>      >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be w]Ju Lim
>      >>> ---08/26/2015 10:34:59 AM---Hi Piet: I'm indifferent about the
>     dates
>      >>> other than it should be way before the
>      >>>
>      >>> From: Ju Lim
>      >>> <julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>      >>> :
>      >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
>      >>> To: "Kruithof, Piet"
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>      >>> i
>      >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>      >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
>      >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS, Jeffrey A
>      >>> Calcaterra/Raleigh/IBM at IBMUS, Liz Blanchard
>      >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>     <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>      >>> o
>      >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
>     Serena Doyle
>      >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>     <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>      >>> l
>      >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>,
>     "Benchenaa, Hayat"
>      >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>      >>> .
>      >>> benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>     <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>
>      >>> Date: 08/26/2015 10:34 AM
>      >>>
>      >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>      >>> ________________________________
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Hi Piet:
>      >>>
>      >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be way
>     before the
>      >>> Tokyo Summit.  I'm not sure about the travel but can definitely
>     do it
>      >>> remotely via video conferencing like last time.  Any thoughts about
>      >>> remote participation?
>      >>>
>      >>> Thoughts?
>      >>>
>      >>> Thanks,
>      >>> Ju
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>      >>> i
>      >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>     wrote:
>      >>>
>      >>> Ccing a few folks (who may be attending)
>      >>>
>      >>> Ju, Liz, Jeff, Serena and Hyat,
>      >>>
>      >>> See below.
>      >>>
>      >>> The meeting will be in Austin.  Do you have a preference?  I
>     would like
>      >>> to do Option #3.
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet Kruithof
>      >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>      >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>      >>>
>      >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>     neat and
>      >>> wrong.²
>      >>>
>      >>> H L Menken
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
>      >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>      >>> s
>      >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
>      >>> .
>      >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>      >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM
>      >>> To: Piet Kruithof
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>      >>> i
>      >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>     <mailto:pie>
>      >>> t
>      >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>      >>> .
>      >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>      >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
>      >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>      >>> :
>      >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
>      >>> o
>      >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>      >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> It's actually 5th and 6th of October instead of 2nd and 3rd.
>      >>>
>      >>> A couple options are:
>      >>>
>      >>> 1. Keep the workshop to be 2 days, and stay late during these
>     two days.
>      >>>
>      >>> 2. We can schedule the workshop from 4th to 6th, so that we
>     have three
>      >>> days, but this would require people to come on Sunday.
>      >>>
>      >>> 3. We can use the collaborative space on 5th and 6th, and use a
>     different
>      >>> space on 7th, but this would require we move all artifacts
>     generated in
>      >>> the workshop late on 6th.
>      >>>
>      >>> -Stan
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015 08:17:08
>      >>> PM---What do you think?  I¹m kind of torn because we may
>     nee]"Kruithof,
>      >>> Piet" ---08/25/2015 08:17:08 PM---What do you think?  I¹m kind
>     of torn
>      >>> because we may need more than two days to work on the personas.
>      >>>
>      >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>      >>> i
>      >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>     <mailto:pie>
>      >>> t
>      >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>      >>> .
>      >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>      >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS
>      >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
>      >>> Date: 08/25/2015 08:17 PM
>      >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>      >>>
>      >>> ________________________________
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> What do you think?  I¹m kind of torn because we may need more
>     than two
>      >>> days to work on the personas.  However, the 12-14th is a bit
>     close to the
>      >>> summit and won¹t leave us a lot of time to prepare the personas.
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet Kruithof
>      >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>      >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>      >>>
>      >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>     neat and
>      >>> wrong.²
>      >>>
>      >>> H L Menken
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
>      >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>      >>> s
>      >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
>      >>> .
>      >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>
>      >>> <
>      >>> mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>      >>> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 2:07 PM
>      >>> To: Piet Kruithof
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>      >>> i
>      >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>     <mailto:pie>
>      >>> t
>      >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>      >>> .
>      >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>.
>      >>> c
>      >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
>     <mailto:pieter.c.k>
>      >>> r
>      >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>      >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
>      >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>      >>> :
>      >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
>      >>> o
>      >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mail
>      >>> t
>      >>> o:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:o%3Agregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>     <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>      >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Hi Piet,
>      >>>
>      >>> Thanks for reaching out, I was just about to email you on this.
>      >>>
>      >>> I've been trying to secure rooms for the persona workshop, and
>     initially
>      >>> I try to book the collaborative spaces with movable whiteboards
>     that we
>      >>> have in the design studio. However, due to limited availability
>     and vast
>      >>> demand, the earliest days these spaces would be available are:
>     2nd and
>      >>> 3rd October and 12 to 14 October.
>      >>>
>      >>> Would these two times work?
>      >>>
>      >>> I'm still looking for rooms at other buildings that might be
>     available
>      >>> earlier, but I think these design spaces are ideal for a persona
>      >>> workshop.
>      >>>
>      >>> -Stan
>      >>>
>      >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015 02:54:26
>      >>> PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.]"Kruithof, Piet"
>     ---08/25/2015
>      >>> 02:54:26 PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.
>      >>>
>      >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
>      >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>      >>> i
>      >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>     <mailto:pie>
>      >>> t
>      >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>      >>> .
>      >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>.
>      >>> c
>      >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
>     <mailto:pieter.c.k>
>      >>> r
>      >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>     <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>      >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
>      >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
>      >>> Date: 08/25/2015 02:54 PM
>      >>> Subject: Persona meeting in Austin
>      >>>
>      >>> ________________________________
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Hi Stan | Hi Greg,
>      >>>
>      >>> Hope all is well.
>      >>>
>      >>> I was wondering whether you have thought about the proposed persona
>      >>> workshop.  Where you still interested in hosting in Austin?  If
>     so, what
>      >>> dates did you have in mind?
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Piet Kruithof
>      >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>      >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>      >>>
>      >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>     neat and
>      >>> wrong.²
>      >>>
>      >>> H L Menken
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> [attachment "graycol.gif" deleted by Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM]
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> --
>      >>> Ju Lim
>      >>> Red Hat
>      >>> Office:
>      >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
>     <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
>     <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422>>>
>      >>> Mobile:
>      >>> 781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323
>     <tel:781-507-1323>><tel:781-507-1323
>     <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323>>>
>      >>> Email:
>      >>> julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
>      >>> j
>      >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
>      >>> IRC: julim
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> --
>      >>> Ju Lim
>      >>> Red Hat
>      >>> Office:
>      >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
>     <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
>     <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422>>
>      >>> Mobile:
>      >>> 781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323>>
>      >>> Email:
>      >>> julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
>      >>> j
>      >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
>      >>> IRC: julim
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> --
>      >>> Ju Lim
>      >>> Red Hat
>      >>> Office: 978-399-0422
>      >>> Mobile: 781-507-1323
>      >>> Email: julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>     <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>
>      >>> IRC: julim
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> _______________________________________________
>      >>> openstack-personas mailing list
>      >>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>     <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org>
>      >>>
>     http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-personas
>      >
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>
>
>
>
> --
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