<div dir="ltr">the next PTG is confirmed, and is in a time and region that meets the community expectations for the next ops meetups, so i think giving it a go is fine and appropriate.<div><br></div><div>If no more PTGs happen, or if they become less appropriate somehow, kick-starting the independent events again is quite easy since these are some of the most no-frills events I've been to - a venue, lunch, wifi, some content etherpads, some moderators, you can have an Ops Meetup!</div><div><br></div><div>Chris</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Jimmy McArthur <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org" target="_blank">jimmy@openstack.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Matt,<br>
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Good question. The PTG is definitely occurring in the Fall. We would
evaluate the value of it as a community based on feedback from the
PTG/Ops meetup, Board feedback, survey results, budget, etc... If it
was decided not to hold the PTG in 2019, we would of course need to
reevaluate at that time.<br>
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Let me know if I can answer any further questions.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Jimmy<br>
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<br>Not to be too much of a downer here, but with the future of the PTG
survey I just took, does the ops community want to wait until that's all
sorted out? i.e. what happens if the future of the PTG means there is no
PTG, and it's all just munged together at the Forum, which is no longer
at the beginning of the cycle for vertical teams to plan their release
(like the old design summit) and is prohibitively expensive for lowly
devs and ops to attend? Would the ops community just want to continue
doing what they are doing?
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<a href="mailto:mihalis68@gmail.com" style="color:#485664!important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:500;text-decoration:none!important" target="_blank">Chris Morgan</a></div> <div style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:right"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">March
27, 2018 at 12:49 PM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909aa4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px" class="m_-1886592236251441768__pbConvBody"><div dir="ltr"><span class="">Hello Everyone<div>
You've probably see the thread about possibly combining ops meetups
with PTG to make a new broader event. Here is a rough draft of what that
would actually look like:</div><div><br></div><div><b>"Monday and
Tuesday are cross-project days where ops are welcome to attend SIG and
other discussions, and if not interested can be travel days or whatever
for them. Then Wed-Thurs are the two tracks/events where the ops folks
have what has traditionally been done for ops meetups. Then Friday is a
travel day or ops can stick around to follow up with dev-side things<br>that
they weren't able to get to over the week or wanted to follow up on."</b></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks
to Sean McGinnis for proposing this to get the ball rolling. This would
mean there's a "normal" ops meetup for two days on days 3 and 4 of this
combined event, with the option of attending earlier (days 1 and 2) if
you want to contribute to dev/ops/openstack community sessions (e.g.
SIGs), and possibly also staying a 5th day.</div><div><br></div><div>The
event is currently pencilled in for September in a central part of the
USA. It will be organized by the Foundation logistically but the various
sub-groups own their technical agendas.</div><div><br></div><div>We
unfortunately forgot to record the chat as a formal meeting, but you can
see the raw IRC chat here</div><div><a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-operators/%23openstack-operators.2018-03-27.log.html#t2018-03-27T14:03:40" target="_blank">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org<wbr>/irclogs/%23openstack-operator<wbr>s/%23openstack-operators.2018-<wbr>03-27.log.html#t2018-03-27T14:<wbr>03:40</a><br></div><div><br></div></span><span class=""><div>With
the current level of support for this idea, it looks likely to happen,
but, particularly if you object, please speak up ASAP. Note that this
would be instead of the tentative idea we had of an event in NYC in
August. If this is welcomed by the operators community, I'll certainly
try to swap the sponsorship from my employer over to this as I feel it
will be even more valuable and initial feedback from other potential
sponsors is favorable.</div><div><br></div><div>Please make your voice
heard on this issue!</div><div><br></div></span><span class=""><div>Chris</div><div><br></div><div>--
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