<div dir="auto">Whole idea with log translation is half-backed anyway. About the half of important log messages contain output of things outside openstack. Libvirt, ip, sudo, kernel, etc. In any i18n installation there going to be some amount of untranslated messages. This kills whole idea of localization.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Modern operator ought to know English at 'technical reading' level anyway. Therefore, localization does not achieve it goal, but cause pain instead: search segmentation, slightly misleading translation (f.e. 'stream' and 'thread' both translate into Russian 'поток', which brings ambiguity), different system may use slightly different translation, causing even more mess.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As Russian speaker and openstack operator I definitely don't want to have logs translation.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 10, 2017 4:42 PM, "Doug Hellmann" <<a href="mailto:doug@doughellmann.com">doug@doughellmann.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">There is a discussion on the -dev mailing list about the i18n team<br>
decision to stop translating log messages [1]. The policy change means<br>
that we may be able to clean up quite a lot of "clutter" throughout the<br>
service code, because without anyone actually translating the messages<br>
there is no need for the markup code used to tag those strings.<br>
<br>
If we do remove the markup from log messages, we will be effectively<br>
removing "multilingual logs" as a feature. Given the amount of work<br>
and code churn involved in the first roll out, I would not expect<br>
us to restore that feature later.<br>
<br>
Therefore, before we take what would almost certainly be an<br>
irreversible action, we would like some input about whether log<br>
message translations are useful to anyone. Please let us know if<br>
you or your customers use them.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Doug<br>
<br>
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