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<p class="MsoPlainText">I've followed "cloud for at least as long as OpenStack has existed, but back then I followed whatever/whoever called themselves "cloud" or "cloud-{app|service|etc}" and at one point there was a heated discussion (mostly that the rest
of the group agreed with) that you couldn't claim you ran in the/a cloud if you utilized your own equipment in your own data center.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">So, yeah. The rest of the world doesn't always see cloud the way we do.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">--Rocky<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: Silence Dogood <matt@nycresistor.com><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">I figure if you have entity Y's workloads running on entity X's hardware...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">and that's 51% or greater portion of gross revenue... you are a public<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">cloud.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Kenny Johnston <<a href="mailto:kenny@kencjohnston.com">kenny@kencjohnston.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> That seems like a strange definition. It doesn't incorporate the usual<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> multi-tenancy requirement that traditionally separates private from public<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> clouds. By that definition, Rackspace's Private Cloud offer, where we<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> design, deploy and operate a single-tenant cloud on behalf of customers (in<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> their data-center or ours) would be considered a "public" cloud.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Rochelle Grober <<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> <a href="mailto:rochelle.grober@huawei.com">rochelle.grober@huawei.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Hi Matt,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> At considerable risk of heading down a rabbit hole... how are you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> defining "public" cloud for these purposes?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Blair<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> Any cloud that provides a cloud to a thirdparty in exchange for money.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> So, rent a VM, rent a collection of vms, lease a fully operational cloud<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> spec'ed to your requirements, lease a team and HW with your cloud on<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> them.....<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>> So any cloud that provides offsite IAAS to lessees<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">>><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">>> --Rocky<o:p></o:p></p>
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