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<div>I agree, if the flavors are removed, there should be a python script etc that can easily define the flavors using the CLI etc. Their presence may have been a presumption, but there are likely a lot of tests out there that depend upon the default flavors,
and we should avoid breaking them until people have a chance to update their test environments/scripts as needed.</div>
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On Apr 4, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Joseph Bajin <<a href="mailto:josephbajin@gmail.com">josephbajin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">While I think it's fine to remove this from the normal setup, I think there should be either a file or process that one could run to add these basic flavors. I think without you will have things such as DevStack and other beginners not being
able to get up and going.
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<div>I think having the migration as a side option would be a good compromise. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Robert Starmer <span dir="ltr">
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<div dir="ltr">I'll add a vote for removal, given how varied private clouds tend to be, the flavors are often "wrong" for any one particular purpose.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Mike Smith <span dir="ltr">
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">+1 from me. We always just remove them and add our own. Like Dan said, it’s consistent with populating your own images.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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<div>On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Eric Windisch <<a href="mailto:eric@windisch.us" target="_blank">eric@windisch.us</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p dir="ltr">I recall these being embedded being a real operational pain when my team wanted to replace the defaults. +1 on removal</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 31, 2016 2:27 PM, "Dan Smith" <<a href="mailto:dms@danplanet.com" target="_blank">dms@danplanet.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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Hi all,<br>
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I just wanted to float this past the operators list for visibility:<br>
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Historically Nova has seeded some default flavors in an initial install.<br>
The way it has done this is really atypical of anything else we do, as<br>
it's embedded in the initial database schema migration. Since we're<br>
moving where we store those flavors now, leaving their creation in the<br>
original migration means even new deploys will just have to move them to<br>
the new location. That, and we don't even use them for our own testing<br>
as they're too large.<br>
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So, this will involve removing them from that migration, making sure<br>
that devstack creates you some flavors to use if you're going that<br>
route, and updates to the manuals describing the creation of base<br>
flavors alongside getting an image set up to use.<br>
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For real deployments, there should be little or no effect, but PoC type<br>
deploys that are used to those flavors being present may need to run a<br>
couple of flavor-create commands when bootstrapping, just like you have<br>
to do for images.<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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