<div dir="ltr">I think Tim raises a very valid point, and this was exactly the reason why I put together the European Ops meetup to start with. There are a lot of operators in Europe who aren't getting involved in the Ops meetups at the minute, even at the Summits, for many different reasons including logistical ones, and as I pointed out earlier in this thread the implementation landscape in Europe is different from the US and may well have different concerns to bring to the table eg. there are many more regional public cloud operators because of data sovereignty concerns in European countries. Having a midcycle meetup which brings in some of those voices can only be a positive thing. There are also plenty of options for remote participation if the demand is there. <div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 November 2015 at 18:33, Tim Bell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch" target="_blank">Tim.Bell@cern.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Multiple meetups in parallel does make it more difficult to get the PTLs and product working group involved. There have been many benefits from their work with operators and defining the roadmaps.<br>
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It may be that not everyone can attend but there is also the opportunity for those who have never attended to come. These may also be those who were not able to make it to recent summits and would really benefit from the sharing of experiences beyond an ether pad.<br>
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On 16/11/15 17:11, "Donald Talton" <<a href="mailto:DonaldTalton@fico.com">DonaldTalton@fico.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>I'd second this idea. If we can gather the pertinent result from each meeting, that would be ideal.<br>
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>I am in the same position that Donald here. It is hard to justify that trip, however I believe we can multiple Ops Meet-ups around the world without expecting an official one.<br>
>As long as during the meet-up the feedback is collected and open, it should be enough to move forward.<br>
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>On 11/16/15, 8:04 AM, "Donald Talton" <<a href="mailto:DonaldTalton@fico.com">DonaldTalton@fico.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>I think it's good to move the meeting around out of fairness. Although like you said, I would not be able to justify travel expenses for my staff (US-based) for a mid-cycle meetup.<br>
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>>1st User Committee IRC meeting will be today at 19:00UTC on #openstack-meeting, we haven't exactly settled on an agenda yet but I hope to raise this issue the...<br>
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>>It has been suggested that we make the February 15-16 European Ops Meetup in Manchester UK [1] the 'official' OPs Midcycle. Previously all mid cycles have been US based.<br>
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>>Personally I like the idea of broadening or geographic reach rather than staying concentrated in North America. I particularly like it being 'opposite' the summit location.<br>
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>>This would likely trade off some depth of participation as fewer of the same people would be able to travel to all midcycles in person.<br>
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>>Discuss...(also come by #openstack-meeting at 19:00 UTC if you think this needs real time discussion)<br>
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