<div dir="ltr">BTW, what's the EOL date of Juno?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:50 PM, Tom Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Tom.Cameron@rackspace.com" target="_blank">Tom.Cameron@rackspace.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,'Segoe UI','Segoe WP',Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">On a personal level, supporting the same release
of an open source project for 5 years is something you should pay for...dearly. If operators have customers that are pinned to Juno for some reason I couldn't imagine right now, and they're willing to pay us to support it, then great!</span><br style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,'Segoe UI','Segoe WP',Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">
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<span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,'Segoe UI','Segoe WP',Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">But I think we need to very tightly scope what support means- Absolutely no back or forward porting. The features
you have now are frozen in time. Also, they need to be tightly pinned to the OS distro repo versions of packages so we don't have to care about fixing critical vulns in stuff we don't maintain and can't control. This basically means they'll be paying us to
make sure they can upgrade distro packages for security reasons and that OpenStack will keep functioning, and to file & patch upstream OpenStack bugs.</span><br style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,'Segoe UI','Segoe WP',Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">
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<span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,'Segoe UI','Segoe WP',Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Effectively this means they're settling for less value for their money if they remain on Juno for the full 5 years,
whereas customers using newer versions of operators' OpenStack offerings will be getting new development and features for the same support dollars (which is a good way to market new versions to them, BTW).</span><br style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,'Segoe UI','Segoe WP',Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">
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<span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:wf_segoe-ui_normal,'Segoe UI','Segoe WP',Tahoma,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">My $0.02</span><br>
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