<html><head></head><body>+1<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On July 2, 2015 2:15:02 PM EDT, Jesse Keating <jlk@bluebox.net> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Honestly I'm fine with the elected board helping to make this decision. Folks that want to underwrite the event can submit a proposal to host, board picks from the submissions? Having a wide vote on it seems overkill to me.<br /><br /></div>Open call for submissions, board votes. Is that unreasonable? <br /></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" /><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">- jlk</div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Tom Fifield <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tom@openstack.org" target="_blank">tom@openstack.org</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">OK, so I'm just going to throw this one out there to re-stoke the<br />
discussion ...<br />
<br />
Venue selection process.<br />
<br />
At the moment, there's a few of us who work hard in the shadows to make<br />
the best choice we can from a range of generous offers :)<br />
<br />
In our brave new world, I think this should be a bit more open, what do<br />
you think?<br />
<br />
What kind of structure do we need to make the best decision?<br />
<br />
<br />
Regards,<br />
<br />
<br />
Tom<br />
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On 01/07/15 15:29, Tom Fifield wrote:<br />
> Team,<br />
><br />
> It's great to see so much passion! :)<br />
><br />
> Here's an attempt at a summary email. I'll wait until a later email to<br />
> wade into the discussion myself ;) Feel free to jump in on any point.<br />
><br />
> =Things we tend to agree on=<br />
> "Spirit of the event"<br />
> * The response most people had in common was that they didn't want to<br />
> see vendor booths :) Several others noted the importance that the event<br />
> should remain accessible and ensure there were no barriers to<br />
> attendance, space for networking with others and sharing information<br />
> about deployments without fear of vendor harassment.<br />
><br />
> Multiple Sponsors<br />
> * are OK, but they are more like underwriters who should be OK with only<br />
> modest acknowledgement (see previous: no booths). Preference for<br />
> operator sponsors. Several ways to recognise them possible.<br />
><br />
> Current Schedule Format<br />
> * It appeared like the current format is working well in general, but<br />
> could do with minor tweaks.<br />
><br />
><br />
> =Things still under discussion=<br />
> Sell Tickets<br />
> * Many people agreed that some moderate form of ticketing could be OK,<br />
> but the question remains to what extent this should be priced ("low<br />
> fee"? $100-200? "cover costs"?). A strong counterpoint was that paid<br />
> ticketing makes it less accessible (see "spirit"), prevents some local<br />
> attendance, and is unfair to smaller operators, though others noted that<br />
> it may be the only practical way to raise funds in the future.<br />
><br />
> Break into Regional Events<br />
> * A number of viewpoints, ranging from "multiple regional events" to<br />
> "one event only [maybe with a travel fund]" to "one event that moves<br />
> around [maybe even outside USA]" to "make it in the centre of USA for<br />
> easier travel on average".<br />
><br />
><br />
> Capping Numbers (inc. Limit Attendees per Company)<br />
> * A lot of disagreement here. Many argued that any kind of cap or<br />
> barrier to entry detracts from the accessibility of the event. Others<br />
> put forth that too few restrictions could dilute the ops-heavy attendee<br />
> base, and implied that large companies might send too many people.<br />
><br />
><br />
> Multiple Tracks<br />
> * To help deal with room size, we could split into multiple tracks. The<br />
> ideal number of tracks is not clear at this stage.<br />
><br />
> Evening Event<br />
> * Several people said they found the PHL evening event uncomfortably<br />
> packed, and suggested cancelling it on this basis, or on the basis of<br />
> cost. Suggested alternate was posting a list of nearby venues.<br />
><br />
> Lightening Talks<br />
> * Have lightening talks, perhaps by renaming "show and tell". More of<br />
> them? Arranged differently? Unclear.<br />
><br />
> =Ideas=<br />
> * Video Recording - Might be worth a shot, starting small.<br />
> * Travel Fund, Scholarship Fund, Slush Fund<br />
> * Use Universities during the summer break for venues<br />
><br />
> =Open Questions=<br />
> * How will the number of attendees grow?<br />
> * What are the costs involved in hosting one of these events?<br />
> * Stuff about the summit - probably need a different thread for this<br />
><br />
><br />
> Regards,<br />
><br />
><br />
> Tom<br />
><br />
><br />
><br />
><br />
> On 30/06/15 12:33, Tom Fifield wrote:<br />
>> Hi all,<br />
>><br />
>> Right now, behind-the-scenes, we're working on getting a venue for next<br />
>> ops mid-cycle. It's taking a little longer than normal, but rest assured<br />
>> it is happening.<br />
>><br />
>> Why is it so difficult? As you may have noticed, we're reaching the size<br />
>> of event where both physically and financially, only the largest<br />
>> organisations can host us.<br />
>><br />
>> We thought we might get away with organising this one old-school with a<br />
>> single host and sponsor. Then, for the next, start a brainstorming<br />
>> discussion with you about how we scale these events into the future -<br />
>> since once we get up and beyond a few hundred people, we're looking at<br />
>> having to hire a venue as well as make some changes to the format of the<br />
>> event.<br />
>><br />
>> However, it seems that even this might be too late. We already had a<br />
>> company that proposed to host the meetup at a west coast US hotel<br />
>> instead of their place, and wanted to scope out other companies to<br />
>> sponsor food.<br />
>><br />
>> This would be a change in the model, so let's commence the discussion of<br />
>> how we want to scale this event :)<br />
>><br />
>> So far I've heard things like:<br />
>> * "my $CORPORATE_BENEFACTOR would be fine to share sponsorship with others"<br />
>> * "I really don't want to get to the point where we want booths at the<br />
>> ops meetup"<br />
>><br />
>> Which are promising! It seems like we have a shared understanding of<br />
>> what to take this forward with.<br />
>><br />
>> So, as the ops meetup grows - what would it look like for you?<br />
>><br />
>> How do you think we can manage the venue selection and financial side of<br />
>> things? What about the session layout and the scheduling with the<br />
>> growing numbers of attendees?<br />
>><br />
>> Current data can be found at<br />
>> <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups#Venue_Selection" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups#Venue_Selection</a> .<br />
>><br />
>> I would also be interested in your thoughts about how these events have<br />
>> only been in a limited geographical area so far, and how we can address<br />
>> that issue.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Regards,<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Tom<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
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