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    Hello George<br>
    Inline,<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-02-06 1:11 PM, George Shuklin
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote cite="mid:54D503E1.1050004@gmail.com" type="cite">
      <br>
      On 02/06/2015 04:21 PM, Steve Gordon wrote:
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        <blockquote type="cite">It does look like that.  However, the
          intent here is to allow non-developer
          <br>
          members of a Telco provide the use cases they need to
          accomplish. This way
          <br>
          the Telco WG can identify gaps and file a proper spec into
          each of the
          <br>
          OpenStack projects.
          <br>
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        Indeed, what we're trying to do is help the non-developer
        members of the group articulate their use cases and tease them
        out to a level that is meaningful to someone who is not immersed
        in telecommunications themselves. In this way we hope to in turn
        be able to create meaningful specifications for the actual
        OpenStack projects impacted.
        <br>
        <br>
        It's possible that some of these will be truly cross-project and
        therefore head to openstack-specs but initial indications seem
        to be that most will either be specific to a project, or cross
        only a couple of projects (e.g. nova and neutron) - I am sure
        someone will come up with some more exceptions to this statement
        to prove me wrong :).
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      Ok, I definitively out of telco business, and I indeed openstack
      operator. My first question: what you want to do, what problems
      you want to solve?
      <br>
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    </blockquote>
    IMO most of the Telco's are asking Openstack developers to work in
    the following big areas (the first 3 are basically Carrier Grade):<br>
    - Performance on the virtualization layer (NUMA, etc) - get
    baremetal-like performance in big VM's<br>
    - QoS and capacity management - to get deterministic behavior,
    always the same regardless of the load<br>
    - Reliability (via HA, duplicate systems, live-migration, etc) -
    achieve 99'999% uptime,<br>
    - Management interfaces (OAM), compatible with their current OSS/BSS
    systems (i.e. SNMP traps, usage metering for billing)  - to don't
    reinvent the wheel, they have other things to manage too (i.e.
    legacy)<br>
    <blockquote cite="mid:54D503E1.1050004@gmail.com" type="cite">I was
      on one 'NVF' session in Paris, and I've expected it to be about
      SR-IOV and using VF (virtual functions) of network cards for guest
      acceleration. But instead it was something I just didn't got at
      all (sorry, Ericsson). So, what are you want to do? Not in terms
      of 'business solution', but on very low level. Run some specific
      appliance? Add VoIP support to Neutron? Make something differ?
      <br>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    It's all about SLA's stablished by telco's customers: government,
    military and healthcare systems. SLA's are crazy there. And as an IT
    operators, you'll all understand those requirements, so it's really
    not that different compared to Telco operators.<br>
    <br>
    Just remember that ETSI NFV is more than all that: you probably saw
    Ericsson speaking about high-level telco functions: MANO, VIM, EMS
    and VNFs, etc... that's beyond the scope of you guys, and probably
    outside the scope of all of the Openstack world.. that's why OPNFV
    exists.<br>
    <br>
    Kind regards<br>
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