<div dir="ltr">i wish hp would open source their cmdb code... that stuff was pretty neat.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:03 AM, George Shuklin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:george.shuklin@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.shuklin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>In my earlier days I had tried many
      formal schemes, but it always cause problems.<br>
      <br>
      For now I settle to following scheme:<br>
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      machine-used database (dns, chef, etc) for explit details like mac
      addresses, hardware, rack location, network communication. That
      database should be constantly used, not 'write only', otherwise
      everyone will starts to forget to update, and suddenly it will
      loose it authority over 'I wrote you about it in hipchat and than
      send you update via sms, and final version is in your other skype
      account'. Usually it some kind of 'work', or 'control panel', or
      chef data bags.<br>
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      All topological schemes should be hand written. Whiteboards is
      just perfect for that. Why? Because all tools, except
      pen/pencil/marker are restrain you, forcing to use terminology and
      linking type of that tool. Even inkscape is restricting, because
      you can not just 'undersubscribe' link, or draw funny spiral
      ("here it goes somewhere...").<br>
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      And text in corporate wiki in free form. Yes, updates will change
      everything, but even after updates original picture and text will
      be precious, because they will say history  and will help to debug
      strange issues with historical reasons. Corporate blogs are
      perfect place for updates and ideas for future update.<br>
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      Yes, it is a mess, but it is better than 'not enough information
      because of the format restrictions'.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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      On 01/26/2015 03:45 PM, matt wrote:<br>
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          <div>I really liked using sphinx for documentation back in the
            day, it has the benefit of being community compatible.  I
            also enjoyed graphviz integration in sphinx for diagrams...
            and then there was templating gnuplots....<br>
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          but i think I was probably considered a masochist on this
          front.  at the very least management types did not like that
          they couldn't really edit our documentation.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:10 AM, George
          Shuklin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:george.shuklin@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.shuklin@gmail.com</a>></span>
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              <div>We using chef to manage hosts. Data bags contains all
                data of all hosts. We keep hardware configuration and
                DC-wide-name in databags too.<br>
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                For the flowcharts we mostly use markers and whiteboard,
                sometime I sketch stuff in dia [1] or with wacom tablet
                in mypaint.<br>
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                [1] <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/dia-installer/" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/projects/dia-installer/</a>
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                    On 01/25/2015 04:15 PM, Daniel Comnea wrote:<br>
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                          <div>Hi all,<br>
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                          Can anyone who runs Openstack in a production
                          environment/ data center share how you
                          document the whole infrastructure, what tools
                          are used for drawing diagrams(i guess you need
                          some pictures otherwise is hard to understand
                          it :)), maybe even an inventory etc?<br>
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                        Thanks,<br>
                        Dani<br>
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                      P.S in the past - 10+ - i used to have maintain a
                      red book but i suspect situation is different in
                      2015<br>
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