<div dir="ltr">I've been to the last two summits (speaking as an operator), and I'm heading to Atlanta for a third and have every intention of going to Paris as well. There were quite a lot of ops types in Hong Kong (more than Portland), and I suspect that number will continue to grow. The ops track sessions have been packed in both places. In Portland I pretty much just had to stay glued to my chair or I'd never get back in the room the rest of the day. I suppose the Monday / Friday sessions in Atlanta will prove this out one way or another. IMHO, companies gain a lot of benefit from sending at least one representative to keep a feel for what's going on and hopefully have their voices heard more clearly going forward.<div>
<br></div><div>-Erik</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:03 PM, matt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matt@nycresistor.com" target="_blank">matt@nycresistor.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I agree with brad. It's a misguided effort. Operators largely will not ever be involved with the summit. We need to be focused on remote participation here.<br>
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<span><div><div><div dir="ltr">yeah i've been to a few summits. trust me we're not getting a good cross section there.<br></div><div><br></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><div>It’s not perfect, but it also isn’t as gloom as previously stated either. We are trying to make it better, and get more operators involved. </div>
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<p style="color:#a0a0a8">On Friday, May 2, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:</p><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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most operators do not attend summits.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>For people who do work at companies that would qualify as "operators", the only people who ever will attend summits or conferences are sales and marketing types. Real rubber-meets-the-road operations people won't attend, unless they've been invited to speak.</div>
<div><br></div><div>At most, companies may potentially allow their employees to attend one conference or summit per year (i.e., allow them to take PTO to attend on their own dollar), and lots of things are likely to rank higher on their list of priorities than squandering that once-a-year opportunity on a summit.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The only people who are likely to ever attend a conference or a summit are people who could generate sales by being there and operating the booth, or if they're new enough to the space and their company is desperate enough to send one person somewhere for a week to become the in-house "expert" on the subject.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>At least, that's the pattern I've seen repeated over and over again for the past 25+ years.</div></div></div></span></div></blockquote></div></div><div>I completely disagree. Have you been to an OpenStack Summit? I have been to every one since cactus. There are many experienced operators who attend.</div>
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