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            <td>Re: [Openstack-operators] Request for Load data for
              Keystone</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th>
            <td>Tue, 28 Jan 2014 23:37:11 +0100</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th>
            <td>Joe Topjian <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joe@topjian.net"><joe@topjian.net></a></td>
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            <td>Adam Young <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com"><ayoung@redhat.com></a></td>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Adam,
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:33 PM,
            Adam Young <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com" target="_blank">ayoung@redhat.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm
              a Keystone core dev.  I often find myself in the position
              of thinking about Keystone Performance  without real
              numbers to back it up.<br>
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              Can people with "real live clouds" provide some insight?
               Here's what I'd like to know?<br>
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              How big is your Keystone data set?  How many<br>
              users<br>
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            <div>Approximately 150</div>
            <div> </div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">projects<br>
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            <div>Approximately 100</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">domains<br>
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            <div>0</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">active
              tokens<br>
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            <div>memcdump is showing approximately 22,000 </div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">1.
               UUID vs PKI tokens?<br>
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            <div>uuid</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">2.
               Apache HTTPD vs Eventlet:<br>
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              Which do you run?  Do you see performance issues with
              either?<br>
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            <div>Eventlet. No performance issues. I might move to
              Apache, but I have no real reason.</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">How
              many token revocation events are you seeing?  How long is
              your token revocation list getting?  Which events dominate
              (change password, revoke roles?)<br>
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            <div>Revocation list is currently 74. I'm not keeping track
              of event metrics such as these.</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Do
              you run the SQL token backend?  If so, how often do you
              clean out the expired tokens?<br>
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            <div>memcache</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Non
              performance related questions:<br>
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              Are you using the V3 API?  If not, what is keeping you on
              V2?<br>
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            <div>Our production clouds are running Grizzly. If v3 is
              available in Grizzly, then we haven't found a need to move
              to v3. To be honest, dealing with OpenStack upgrades takes
              enough time to plan, unless new api versions are
              automatically enabled during the upgrade, I don't have
              time to bother.</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Do
              you use trusts?  Do you even understand what they provide?<br>
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            <div>No and no. Google isn't returning any non-developer
              docs from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://docs.openstack.org" target="_blank">docs.openstack.org</a>
              on trusts.</div>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Do
              you use SSL or Kerberos?  Do you want to, but find
              something is keeping you from doing so?<br>
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            <div>I'd love to utilize more features of Keystone, but
              there's little documentation about what is possible:</div>
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            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/ch-identity-mgmt-config.html"
                target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/ch-identity-mgmt-config.html</a><br>
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            <div>Your blog posts are great and informative, but I think
              there needs to be more practical official OpenStack
              Identity documentation. </div>
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              If you have answers to these questions, but feel
              uncomfortable posting them publically, please send them to
              me directly and I will anonymize the answers.  Don't feel
              like you need to answer everything if you have something
              to contribute in just one topic.<br>
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              P.S. We know about the shortcomings of the Identity
              operations (list users in particular).  Those will be
              addressed separately.<br>
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