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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It would be good to get that full list, so we can expand this doc, and look at closing any remaining gap:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://wiki.openstack.org/HypervisorSupportMatrix">http://wiki.openstack.org/HypervisorSupportMatrix</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have live-migration, hopefully, going into Folsom.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If you are using pools attached to shared storage (through host-aggregates), live migration support is in trunk.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The local disk block migrate version is up for review right now (the cross pool volume migration should be on its way soon):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xenapi-live-block-migration">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xenapi-live-block-migration</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Thomas Vachon [mailto:vachon@sessionm.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 30, 2012 3:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Garbutt<br><b>Cc:</b> openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openstack-operators] Using a SAN for nova-volume & KVM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>XenServer as a hypervisor does not have all the features we are looking for, for instance, live migration.<br clear=all><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>--<br>Thomas Vachon<br>Principal Operations Architect<br><b>session M</b></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>+1-617-963-8993 x7104<br><a href="mailto:vachon@sessionm.com" target="_blank">vachon@sessionm.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:10 AM, John Garbutt <<a href="mailto:John.Garbutt@citrix.com" target="_blank">John.Garbutt@citrix.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thomas, any reason you had issues using XenServer? I don’t understand your commend about HA networking? The XenAPI driver supports OpenStack’s HA networking. I would like to understand what we more you would need to start using XenServer with OpenStack.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Dell connector should work with OpenSource version of XenServer, called XCP. Although the free edition of XenServer should do all you need.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You can use the Dell storage as part of the XenServer storage manager integration in nova-volume. Renuka is adding the support into Cinder soon, which is more likely to meet your needs, so she should be able to help you. It might be good to have a real user work with her to get the feature working how you want it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I hope that helps,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>John</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:Rob_Hirschfeld@Dell.com">Rob_Hirschfeld@Dell.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:Rob_Hirschfeld@Dell.com" target="_blank">Rob_Hirschfeld@Dell.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openstack-operators] Using a SAN for nova-volume & KVM<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lorin,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for forwarding. I am the right contact for this.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes – there is something we can do to help with this. I can’t do it on the list at this time so I’m contacting Jon & Thomas directly to continue the conversation. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If other people are interested in this capability, please let me know.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Rob Hirschfeld</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:Rob_Hirschfeld@Dell.com" target="_blank">Rob_Hirschfeld@Dell.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>@zehicle</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Lorin Hochstein <a href="mailto:[mailto:lorin@nimbisservices.com]" target="_blank">[mailto:lorin@nimbisservices.com]</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jonathan Proulx<br><b>Cc:</b> Thomas Vachon; OpenStack Operators; Hirschfeld, Rob; Stephen Spector<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Openstack-operators] Using a SAN for nova-volume & KVM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jon:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There are several people from Dell that are active in the OpenStack community, they're probably good points of contact to engage with Dell on this issue. Two names I know of offhand are:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- Stephen Spector<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- Rob Hirschfeld<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Take care,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Lorin</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>--</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Lorin Hochstein</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Lead Architect - Cloud Services</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Nimbis Services, Inc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a href="https://www.nimbisservices.com/" target="_blank">www.nimbisservices.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Jonathan Proulx <<a href="mailto:jon@jonproulx.com" target="_blank">jon@jonproulx.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>It does look like nova/volume/san.py could be extended to use the<br>EqlCliExec.py utility from the Equallogic SDK, unfortunately all the<br>pieces of the SDK are full of this copyright:<br><br>Copyright (C) 2009 by Dell, Inc.<br><br>All rights reserved. This software may not be copied, disclosed,<br>transferred, or used except in accordance with a license granted<br>by Dell, Inc. This software embodies proprietary information<br>and trade secrets of Dell, Inc<br><br>So unless we can talk Dell into being more sane with licensing, full<br>and proper integration with OpenStack is unlikely.<br><br>-Jon<br><br>On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Proulx <<a href="mailto:jon@jonproulx.com" target="_blank">jon@jonproulx.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Tom,<br><br>Hopefully someone has a better answer for you as I'm still relatively<br>new to OpenStack myself, but I looked into this a little while ago<br>because I too have an Equalogic SAN and KVM hypervisors. The<br>Equalogic connector in that equation is provided by XenServer not<br>OpenStack (in fact I think but am less sure that it isn't even part of<br>the opensource xen).<br><br>Since I'm running a research system I can take some risks and have<br>decided to go this Ceph for my storage needs, if I were in your HA<br>needing shoes I'd look at how much coding was required to hook<br>Equalogic's API (which exists but I haven't looked at in years) into<br>the nova-volume service, you could be someone's hero, but I don't<br>think there's any current work toward this.<br><br>I'd be happy to be told I'm wrong about that...<br><br>-Jon<br><br>On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Thomas Vachon <<a href="mailto:vachon@sessionm.com" target="_blank">vachon@sessionm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi All,<br><br>We are architecting our system for KVM (as it is the best hypervisor for<br>your money for HA networking) and a SAN for HA nova-volumes. The only<br>reference to being able to use a SAN is with XenServer as the hypervisor. I<br>have no problem giving a server permission to create luns (or pre-creating<br>them if I have to) for now. I want to make sure I can point all the stuff<br>to the SAN instead of doing some half-hearted attempt by using a box as a<br>proxy.<br><br>Our san is an EQL so iSCSI is easy. Also, we run our "san" net on a<br>separate 10Gbe set of interfaces (all the servers have connectivity into the<br>SAN layer).<br><br>Any thoughts?<br><br>--<br>Thomas Vachon<br>Principal Operations Architect<br>session M<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OpenStack-operators mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>OpenStack-operators mailing list<br><a href="mailto:OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">OpenStack-operators@lists.openstack.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>